Author Topic: Lazur's gallery issues  (Read 6193 times)

October 06, 2013, 10:27:03 AM
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Lazur

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About the gallery:
whenever I hit the ic gallery tab, a "sign in" appears on top.*
That means, it's logging me out by entering.
Then if I log in, it brings me back to the forum section.
So it doesn't look it's working right.

There are other aspects that I don't like about it:
the collection section on the gallery index page looks like a mess.
My opinion is that the key factor with a gallery is the organising.
And that page is too random.
Openclipart has a more organised look, even though they show more categories at a page.

Is it possible to focus the page on the galleries section more?

Like there are two sections yet to chose from, which is very small compared to the whole page.
Also showing the subforums under the tutorial gallery isn't good for the organising.
"You have a pencil in a box from the drawer, and you can enter the box without in mind where that box is at"?
Having custom thumbnail images would be better too then choosing from an image from the gallery folder inside.

On the other hand, when you open the actual image, the data is not managed right.
You have a file name section -pointless in my opinion, would you call your image mona lisa.png?
Same with the file size. May be handy for calculating bandwidth or -I have no clue.
Someone looking at the images never cares about that size.


Also with organising, it would be a good idea if you could create folders under your gallery.
Like making a folder for monthly contest, making folders for some projects, etc.
Otherwise it soon becomes like a mess.

There is a resolution section? Shouldn't that be height/width? The data given next to id doesn't say any dpi.
Nor would it mean it anything as it would all be a vector art gallery?
Straight image url -that brings only to the page I'm already at.
So that it doesnt't allow to get the url to post it on the forum.

But there would be some needed functions: show image fullsize.
In another window, preferably.

Cannot comment on the comment section as it logs me out automatically.

*Don't know what part causes it, but here it renders partially translated.
Is that me that I set it wrong accidentally?
Or is there something going on -that better changed.


Another thing, actually with svg-s. What's with css and animations?
Some may embed a complete homepage inside an image.
That may have some risk?

October 06, 2013, 11:46:00 AM
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Lazur

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Thank's for moving it to the right section!

October 06, 2013, 01:05:08 PM
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Hi Lazur,
I made a new topic for this, in case other people have comments as well.

I wrote a little guide for how to use the gallery, which answers some of your questions:  http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=78.0

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whenever I hit the ic gallery tab, a "sign in" appears on top.*

This should only happen if you're not logged in to the forum.  At one time, before the gallery was opened, I was seeing the same behavior.  But I really was logged in to both the gallery and the forum.  That seems to be fixed now, so I'm not sure what you're seeing.  If it's happening when you're sure you're already logged in, would you please attach a screenshot, so I can see what you see?

(We did have a weird little issue with cookies quite early on, before the forum opened, where the cookie became corrupt, and I couldn't log out.  If there's any chance of another corrupt cookie, you could try deleting all you IC cookies.)

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*Don't know what part causes it, but here it renders partially translated.

Because of the asterisk, it sounds like this is related to the IC Gallery tab?  Maybe a screenshot would make it more clear.  But for the moment, I'm not sure what you mean about translation.  Translations is an area about which I'm still learning.  But with patience, I'm sure we can sort things out.

The gallery theme is custom made (and not by me, directly), and it may be that in the customizing process, parts of the translation feature was lost.  But again, a screenshot would help.

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Is it possible to focus the page on the galleries section more?

The reason it seems so jumbled is because that's randomized selection of all the gallery images.  There's not going to be any way to control what people upload or when they upload it.  Of course, at the moment, most of those images are mine.  And I'm not much of an artist.  But I hope that many more, and more talented members will want to upload their masterpieces.  But the display of the Random section is just always going to be jumbled like that.

It is possible to replace the Random section or reorganize the front page to include sections based on the following:  random, category list, album list are the ones there now.  Other possibilites are:  last uploaded, most viewed, last comments, last viewed, last created album (and highest rated, if ratings were enabled).  Or we can also remove the Random section altogether.  I tried that once, and it makes for a very short page, with no images visible (except for the album thumbnails).  And I can also make the Random section much smaller, with only 1 row of images.

I'm sure there will be a way to make the front page more visually pleasing.  But first, I can't do it until there are more images uploaded.  And 2nd, there's one more section available, called "any content", which requires a little more technical expertise than just clicking a couple of buttons.  I am planning to study it some more, to find out if it could be used for this purpose.

I agree with you that the Random section looks like a jumbled mess.  But without severly restricting what can be uploaded, I don't see any way to control it.  However, there are other options, and I will be working on it.

Oh, and also, look at the menu under the Gallery tab.  There are several choices there for what you want to see displayed (most viewed, last uploaded, My Favorites).  You could choose your own favorites, and have them displayed only for you (or any of the choices in the menu).

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"You have a pencil in a box from the drawer, and you can enter the box without in mind where that box is at"?
Having custom thumbnail images would be better too then choosing from an image from the gallery folder inside.

I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you mean with that comment?

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On the other hand, when you open the actual image, the data is not managed right.

I haven't found any way to manage the File Info section.  I can add custom fields (which I already added Date created and Any other info).  I will search through the manual, and see if I can find anything about it.  But that may be an area where an admin has little to no control.  But it's possible I just haven't found the right controls yet.

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Also with organising, it would be a good idea if you could create folders under your gallery.

You can create more than 1 Album in  your User Gallery.  You can also put the images in a particular order, within your album(s).  (Instructions here:  http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=78.0.   Please post in that topic, if you need help.)  I plan on (in the future) adding a 3rd category for contests.  The each contest will have its own album, within that category.  And if the gallery becomes very, very busy and popular, I'll add categories such as cartoons, realistic/realism, sports, nature, etc.

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There is a resolution section? Shouldn't that be height/width? The data given next to id doesn't say any dpi.

I'm not sure which area you are referring to here.  On the image view page, it shows the dimensions of the image.  "The data given next to id..."  "Id" may be a translation, and I'm not sure which area of the gallery it applies to.

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Straight image url -that brings only to the page I'm already at.
So that it doesnt't allow to get the url to post it on the forum.

If you want the URL of a PNG or other raster image, you need to click on the thumbnail to open up the image page (which has all the file info).  If you right-click on that image, it gives you the proper URL.  You can't get the permanent URL from a thumbnail of a raster image.

If it's an SVG, it's a bit different.  You CAN get to the URL from an SVG thumb!  I can only give verbatim instructions for Firefox, but you can probably extrapolate for Chrome.  Right-click either the thumbnail or the image on the image page > "This Frame" > "View Frame Info".  Then you see the permantent URL to the right of "Address".  I'm sure it's something similar for Chrome?

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But there would be some needed functions: show image fullsize.

Click thumbnail to get the image page (CPG calls it the "intermediate image" or "intermediate page".)  If the full size of the image is bigger than the intermediate size, you can click on the intermediate image, and a new window opens up with the full size image.  If no new window opens, there are 2 possible reasons -- you are already looking at the full size, or you have pop up windows blocked through some security on your system.  Note that I'm having a problem getting full sized images, and currently waiting for support to answer my message.  I'll update as soon as I have the answer  :)

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Another thing, actually with svg-s. What's with css and animations?

I'm not sure yet.  I'm in the process of learning more about SVG images on the internet, and trying to get the display fixed for the SVG plugin.  But there are size limitations for uploaded images, both by dimension and by weight (kb, mb).  They are set quite high at the moment, and may have to be lowered.

Ok, I think I've covered everything from your comments that I understand.  And once I understand the other 2 or 3,  I try to answer them as well.  If you need any further clarification or have more questions, please feel free to reply  :)

And thanks for your interest, Lazur.  All your comments and questions help me to identify areas of the site that might need better streamlining, so I can make it more user friendly.

All best  :D
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October 06, 2013, 02:40:08 PM
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Thank's for the answers!

This is how the forum index looks here, and how the ic gallery tab.

I can't remember to set an auto-translation.
Only the gallery tab is affected.

October 06, 2013, 05:07:36 PM
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Well, I'm glad the logout issue is fixed for you.  I still get logged out with IE. 

But meanwhile, I fixed the logo for the Balanced theme.  I'm not sure what happened, because I had it fixed before.  But anyway, that's a nice theme, isn't it?  That's what I use on my test forum  (where I try things out before I put things live on here  :uhoh: ).  It really is just balanced, and easy on the eyes.

Oh, and btw, it is possible to have several different theme choices for the gallery too.  However the current custom gallery theme was not made directly by me, and it would take a LOT of work to make a custom gallery theme for each forum theme!  If I were to set up the gallery theme options (which I'm studying how to do it) they would be entirely different than any of the forum themes.  And for that reason, I'm not sure how worthwhile it would be to have those choices.  But I'm looking into it  :)
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October 06, 2013, 09:03:46 PM
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Hi,

As an experiment I tried accessing the website and Gallery using Opera.
everything seems to work fine, and I have no problems accessing and viewing the Gallery.
 :tup:

Edit:
oops, I think I may have posted this in the wrong topic.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2013, 10:33:03 PM by Inkspots »

October 19, 2013, 03:58:10 PM
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Another "problem" with the gallery I just noticed:
the limit of the characters typed to the comment field.
Also that you cannot use "Enter" to make your words more legible.

October 19, 2013, 08:14:02 PM
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Ok, I can surely increase those values   :tup:

Thanks for letting me know  :)
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