Beginner with Intersection problem

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mattilac
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Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby mattilac » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:11 pm

I just started using inkscape and decided to try out this coffee cup tutorial I found here: http://vectortuts.com/illustration/creating-a-coffee-cup-with-inkscape/. Everything was progressing smoothly until I got to step 11. For some reason I can't get the Intersection function to work on the two selected objects. If anybody can help me, I'd be very appreciative.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby loonquawl » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:27 am

What happens when you try to intersect?
Two possible solutions:
* Move them a little (undo to replace them) to see whether you got the right objects marked
*Is the right one on top? -> the one on top will intersect the other

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby mattilac » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:12 am

I've moved them around. I've even copy and pasted both objects to a new file and tried, but with no success. I've determined that it is the gray object that is causing conflict because I can intersect the brown ellipse with other objects in the picture as well as test objects I create. However the gray one will not intersect with any new objects I create or any other objects in the picture.

This is driving the student in me nuts trying to figure out what the conflict is.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby llogg » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:28 am

I think they mean difference, not intersection.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby EarlyBlake » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:22 pm

llogg wrote:I think they mean difference, not intersection.


I'm pretty sure they mean intersection. There are two whitish ellipses there. One with a gradient on top. One without below. I think the tutorial calls for the intersection of the of ellipse with the gray gradient and the brown ellipse for the coffee. If the rim was a ring made using an exclusion then it would be a difference operation.
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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby llogg » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:25 pm

ah, I see it now. You're right, of course.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby EarlyBlake » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:58 pm

mattilac wrote:I've moved them around. I've even copy and pasted both objects to a new file and tried, but with no success. I've determined that it is the gray object that is causing conflict because I can intersect the brown ellipse with other objects in the picture as well as test objects I create. However the gray one will not intersect with any new objects I create or any other objects in the picture.

This is driving the student in me nuts trying to figure out what the conflict is.


Need a screen shot with the message window at the bottom of the screen visible. Click on the ellipse with the gradient what is it called an ellipse a path or a clipped masked?

Could be a dead path. They were more common in .45 though. Or you might have unknowing clip pr masked the path with the gradient so it's no longer a path but is not and object and you can't preform operations on it any longer. Either way the fastest why to fix it is to delete both the gray ellipse and the brown one and draw new ones. Dead paths are displayed but not updated by inkscape. You can move dead paths around and change some but not all attributes, but as so as you do something to make inkscape redraw the page they go back the shape color etc they are stuck in. I ended up with a good half dozen death paths in .45. I've only run into one in 0.46. Also if you are using Vista inkscape can crash with out freezing. It will still move the pointer and move stuff around the screen but most of the menu functions wont work. This is happening a lot more to me under Vista 64 than 32. That's probably not the problem in this case, if you've already close and re-opened inkscape.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby mattilac » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:07 pm

EarlyBlake wrote:
mattilac wrote:I've moved them around. I've even copy and pasted both objects to a new file and tried, but with no success. I've determined that it is the gray object that is causing conflict because I can intersect the brown ellipse with other objects in the picture as well as test objects I create. However the gray one will not intersect with any new objects I create or any other objects in the picture.

This is driving the student in me nuts trying to figure out what the conflict is.


Need a screen shot with the message window at the bottom of the screen visible. Click on the ellipse with the gradient what is it called an ellipse a path or a clipped masked?

Could be a dead path. They were more common in .45 though. Or you might have unknowing clip pr masked the path with the gradient so it's no longer a path but is not and object and you can't preform operations on it any longer. Either way the fastest why to fix it is to delete both the gray ellipse and the brown one and draw new ones. Dead paths are displayed but not updated by inkscape. You can move dead paths around and change some but not all attributes, but as so as you do something to make inkscape redraw the page they go back the shape color etc they are stuck in. I ended up with a good half dozen death paths in .45. I've only run into one in 0.46. Also if you are using Vista inkscape can crash with out freezing. It will still move the pointer and move stuff around the screen but most of the menu functions wont work. This is happening a lot more to me under Vista 64 than 32. That's probably not the problem in this case, if you've already close and re-opened inkscape.


In bold above was exactly the problem. Went back, redid it and it worked like a charm. Thanks for the info.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby tuliomarchetto » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:15 pm

I just made a account here to answer this one. I spend a couple of hours to discovery that sometimes is necessary to Ungroup Shif+Ctrl+G, even if your objects are not in a grouped together. Then you can you can use Path Intersection, Exclusion, Division and so on.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Zech » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:02 am

I'm having problems with intersection too. But it's not just intersection, it's all the boolean operations.

And I'm not sure if this is a bug or I'm just doing something wrong, but Every time I use them with more than 2 objects they just disappear.

I wanted to try this tutorial https://youtu.be/ywInKVezX6o and when I try mimicking minute 7:48 of that video, I do not get the same result. The whole thing just disappears.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Zech » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:04 am

Every time I use boolean operations with more than 2 objects. It just disappears. SOMEBODY HELP ME!

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby tylerdurden » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:40 pm

The magic word is........... Please.

"Somebody PLEASE help me..."

You have discovered that most Boolean operations only work on two objects.

Maybe you have seen this :
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL ... ining.html

It tells you which ones do what, and when.

But wait... There's even more! Extensions!!
https://inkscape.org/sk/~Moini/★multi-bool-extension-cut-difference-division



TD
Have a nice day.

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The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Zech » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:05 am

Thank you.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Zech » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:15 am

Okay I read it. I got it now. You've been a great help. Thank you again

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby tylerdurden » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:32 am

Welcome aboard!
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Moini » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:30 am

Yeah, the reason for the odd behaviour with more than two objects is that at the last hackfest, someone had a go at making it work with multiple objects. Unfortunately, they just did a part of the work, and left the rest for others to fix. Probably, the person who did it has already forgotten about it...

As for the extensions, please use the one that is linked from the description of my extension, that is, use the one by su-v. It's better than mine.
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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Zech » Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:47 am

Hold on! I'm back. Is there any chance I could get this
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL ... ction.html book offline as a doc. Or PDF file. PLEASE... I prefer doc.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby tylerdurden » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:20 pm

Book and ebook might still be available here: http://www.informit.com/store/inkscape- ... 0132764148

In the meantime, the online manual is available when you click the link in Inkscape's help menu (provided you are online).
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Zech » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:27 pm

I didn't want to buy anything... I'll just read it online I guess.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Zech » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:20 pm

I got the ebook now. But it wasn't from your link. Same book... But the only thing different, it says second edition instead of forth edition. Is this a problem?

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Moini » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:06 pm

There are also some free books about Inkscape:
http://write.flossmanuals.net/start-wit ... pe/_draft/ (it's not finished, but if you want to, I can export a pdf of the current state for you)
or here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... kscape.pdf (a bit outdated)
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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Zech » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:19 pm

Yes please.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Zech » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:23 pm

You can send me it unfinished now.

And then send me the finished version, later when its finished please.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby brynn » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:05 am

The 2nd edition is probably horribly outdated. 4th edition is outdated too, but not as much.

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Re: Beginner with Intersection problem

Postby Moini » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:06 am

Lol - for the finished version, be sure to follow the news at inkscape.org ;-) I probably won't remember.

As for the unfinished version, here's a link (it's only going to be valid for a short time):
http://objavi.booktype.pro/data/books/s ... .03.44.pdf
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