Hello world !

I come here, because I have a little question about shapes. i'll try to explain as much as I can, moreover I'm not an english native, so try to don't mind my grammar

- Is there any trick for a shape to be above and on top of another shape ? I always use up/down level or shape-cloning then menu object->cutting->set.
But maybe there is a cleaner / better / faster method exist ?

This is the style I try to make :

legend:
left one : light gray shape is an identical clone, and the dark grey is inside, using "menu object->cutting->set" method )
right one : the blue shape is in reality two shapes : but I wonder if it's possible to be only one ?



Here is a real case of the right example :

The tail goes on the upper and below the right leg on the same time.



As you can see, the tail is separated in two shapes, moreover I MUST use a little white shape to mask the part of the tail who goes upper of the left lef.

Disadvantages :
- if the left leg need to be modified, we must modify the little white masking shape too + it need to be on the same position of the leg
- in my opinion, it's easier to draw a curved shape when this shape is a single one.

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Here is a real case of the left example :



I must draw the dress with the curve sleeve and the sleeve shadow apart

A better method would be :
Drawing the dress, make a identical clone of it, draw the sleeve shadow, select both clone and sleeve shadow then use menu "object->cutting->set".
But if we do this method, the arm can't be inside the sleeve, but only on top, or above of dress+sleeve shadow.

It's like the left example, a shape can't be on above the cut shape and on top of the clone shape at the same time. It's only on top or above the whole.

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Thanks for taking the time to read my whole post !

And sorry for my (very) bad english, I know it wasn't always easy to understand me

Of course ... Thanks all for your help !


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Phosfor wrote:Is there any trick for a shape "above and on top" of another

This could be accomplished if used layers for each distinct part of your model and changing its Z order, or simply by changing the object's Z order (select object->page up / page down).

I do not know much, maybe other members will explain you better ways.

BlueKnight wrote:This could be accomplished if used layers for each distinct part of your model and changing its Z order, or simply by changing the object's Z order (select object->page up / page down).

I do not know much, maybe other members will explain you better ways.

Thanks for your answer

Yeah, that's what I always do, but for some shape we need to specially carve them and it doesn't always look "smooth".

Well, this seems to be the topic of the week.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18201#p67905 This shows how to do it, when you're working with raster images.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18246 This is another topic, asking the same question. You could follow it, as well.

The short answer to your question, is yes, the solution is to use 2 pieces. You have to be clever, about where to place the pieces (or nodes), so that it looks just right. I'm just not inclined to write the same thing, in 2 topics, in the same week. So I'll be replying to the celtic knot topic, and you can follow that. If you still have questions, you could post them here in your topic (making sure to explalin everything or reference the topic where you have a question).

brynn wrote:Well, this seems to be the topic of the week.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18201#p67905 This shows how to do it, when you're working with raster images.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18246 This is another topic, asking the same question. You could follow it, as well.

The short answer to your question, is yes, the solution is to use 2 pieces. You have to be clever, about where to place the pieces (or nodes), so that it looks just right. I'm just not inclined to write the same thing, in 2 topics, in the same week. So I'll be replying to the celtic knot topic, and you can follow that. If you still have questions, you could post them here in your topic (making sure to explalin everything or reference the topic where you have a question).

I'm sorry if my topic look-like a kind of a duplicate of the celtic logo topic, I did see it

By the way, thanks you for your help That's what I though, there is no other solution, shapes/parts needed to be duplicate . Thanks again, I think we can close this topic.

No worries, that topic still has a potential of at least half a dozen articles...
Actually, for such a use you can clone the original -preferably grouped- image, and clip it with a clone of a path, which means you can modify the shape easily after.
Something similar.