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SVG Viewer

Postby pennsylvaniakate » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:58 am

How do we crafters that use .svg's get someone to write a program that will allow us to view our .svg's as thumbnails just like a .jpg or a .png, in Windows 7 and beyond? Lol, where do programmers hang out? Free would be nice (like Inkscape), but I think most of us would be willing to pay in the ballpark of $10.

Renesis worked with previous versions of Windows, but won't with Windows 7. Ifanview allows you to view .svg's, but it requires opening it as a program, which is an unwelcome step.

Thanks for any input!

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Re: SVG Viewer

Postby brynn » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:24 pm

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Welcome to InkscapeForum!

Well, it was all Renisis player, until it's creator disappeared without notice about a year and a half ago. Our efforts to locate and contact have been unsuccessful.

The marginally good news is that Microsoft has begun to support SVG, with IE9 which reportedly can display some SVG images. I would expect future Windows os to offer viewers which display SVG, and also thumbnails in WinExplorer. But I really have no idea about that. Because of course with Win7, the program that in XP was called 'Windows Picture and Fax Viewer', that's now called.....I forget, because I don't use it any more, because MS thought it would be a good idea not to continue to display animated GIFs in that viewer :roll: :evil: Now in fact I also have to use Irfanview to display animated GIFs. (Win7 will display them in a browser window, which is, well, I won't get on my soapbox, lol)

Anyway, there's a partial solution using InkView. When you double-click on an SVG, and you get the dialog asking you to select a program with which to open it, look just below the list of programs for the Browse button. Look in the Inkscape directory for Inkview.exe. Select it and click OK. Then I don't remember if there's an Apply button on the dialog, but if so, click it and OK. So now when you double-click an SVG, the image opens using Inkview.

That's about all I know about this. I do happen to have the last version of Renesis player that was released, and it does work in Win7 for me. But not very well. If I need to look at SVG thumbnails, I just use Inkscape as a file manager.

I wish someone would take up development of the Renesis program, but it was copyright protected. If anyone knows what has become of the original Renesis developer, no one is saying. But I hope MS has woken up and is smelling the coffee, as they say. IE9 is a good sign, but I don't keep up with any program's development, except for what I can understand about Inkscape. It seems to me that Inkview could be developed in a similar way, but I don't really know?

All best :D

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Re: SVG Viewer

Postby BobSongs » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:27 am

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It's a sad day. Microsoft, a massively wealthy corporation, refuses to offer us 100% support for an open standard like SVG. By "support", we mean full support. This is difficult to explain considering SVG's openness and the length of its availability. Even the W3 consortium discusses the need for an external SVG plug-in for Internet Explorer.

We can wait for MSFT to provide decent support. And wait some more. Or use the World Wide Web Consortium suggestion: the Opera web browser. It is the preferred viewer for these reasons:

  • The most complete SVG 1.1 support available on desktop browsers
  • Already implements some SVG 1.2 Tiny features
  • Supports SMIL Animation
  • Supports SVG Fonts
  • Supports External References
  • Opera is committed to Open Standards
  • Opera is the SVG technology leader and the most active supporter of SVG among the desktop browsers
  • Opera is active in the SVG working group and very supportive towards SVG content developers
  • Opera has extensive know-how and experience in cross-platform development - supports the largest number of platforms and devices of any web browser on the market

Shouldn't we find it odd that Microsoft's Internet Explorer isn't the browser being described here?

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Re: SVG Viewer

Postby brynn » Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:51 am

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Oh, I definitely find it odd. But not sure what I can do about it except wait, or use another browser. What I learned when MS released IE9, and having been and IE user since Win95, is that MS wants to keep up with the competition, rather than lead the way. I think the day is long gone where we see MS leading the way.

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Re: SVG Viewer

Postby Uktrunie » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:06 am

Actually, I was tempted to write my own. I did some research and found some nice Free Pascal libraries to use librsvg to render SVG images, it didn't look hard to do a thumb handler for Windows with it. In theory, I know all that must be known to at least have some sort of thumbnail shown Explorer... What I don't have is the time and will power... But some money would raise my "will bar"... Nah, just kidding. I really don't have the time to do it. But I really wish I had.

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Re: SVG Viewer

Postby BobSongs » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:44 am

brynn wrote:
Off topic:
Oh, I definitely find it odd. But not sure what I can do about it except wait, or use another browser. What I learned when MS released IE9, and having been and IE user since Win95, is that MS wants to keep up with the competition, rather than lead the way. I think the day is long gone where we see MS leading the way.

Off topic:
Bill Gates goes and leaves and the whole shebang goes to ... goes... down the toilet!

Interestingly, Ubuntu's file manager (Nautilus) shows SVG files as thumbnails as a matter of course. I tend to take these little blessings for granted... like my Wacom driver working the moment my system is installed. I forget how spoiled I am until I boot back into Windows.

:mrgreen:


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