I mean, if inkscape.org links directly to inkscapeforum.com as their forums, why not just make it "official" instead of "unofficial"?

It kinda is, the admin microUgly announced to the devs they can do what they want with it. But AFAIK there are other inkscape forums....

This forum could be migrated to the inkscape website but it's a huge undertaking.

Are you only bugged by the tag in the header?

BTW Welcome to the forum!

Hehe yeah, it did bug me a little. As a newcomer to the community, it seems to me these forums are official (or should be). Thanks for the welcome.

Migrating the forum to inkscape.org shouldn't be a big undertaking. I've migrated LAMP (Linux Apache MySQL PHP, etc) setups various times in less than an hour.

Maybe we can ask microUgly to change the tag line or simply remove it.

There was talk of migrating the data from phpBB forum to the Drupal forum structure so the forum would be more integrated into the website. So you need to migrate from one database to another with a different structure, I think it might take at least 7 days full time.

Maybe not! http://drupal.org/project/phpbb2drupal

If the main site runs on drupal, then yeah, that'd be a good idea to migrate to drupal.

If Drupal is already installed on inkscape.org, that means PHP and MySQL and everything are already installed. Moving phpBB to inkscape.org would simple involve copying the files over and exporting/importing the database.

Wow it looks much better than the last time I tested it Thanx for the link

It's the "unofficial" forum because at the time I created it there were a few "new" Inkscape forums being created and the community was debating creating an inkscape.org one. If an inkscape.org forum had been created I wanted to make sure my forum didn't interfere with it's success. I'm all for inkscape.org having a forum and would hand over the content from this one. But it'll be labelled as "unofficial" until such a point that inkscape.org is in a position to seize control if I were to disappear.

hehehe,

What if the tag-line was changed to "THE unofficial Inkscape Forum"

=)

BobSongs wrote:What if the tag-line was changed to "THE unofficial Inkscape Forum"

I like that

microUgly wrote:

BobSongs wrote:What if the tag-line was changed to "THE unofficial Inkscape Forum"

I like that

me three

It's a good idea to have an official site, where people know they're (fairly) safe in posting, or can get questions and bugs reported that will be looked at.
Is there any reason that it would HAVE to be moved to the other site if this were voted as the official site? I mean couldn't it be like a partnership where MicroUgly keeps it here and keeps running it fabulously like it's being run, and still be the official site? (naturally he'd have to want to do this), it's just such a good site!

pkros, you mentioned other InkScape forums. Uhm, got any links to them?

I realize it's just a tagline, but to be honest, I have no real inclination to go elsewhere. My resources are here. I put my tutorials up here.

As far as I'm concerned, it is the unofficial forum. However, when doing a Google search for Inkscape Forums, the first two entries were this site, followed by:

http://old.nabble.com/Inkscape-f1925.html
http://www.inkscape-forum.de/ (German language)
http://inkscape-forum.andreas-s.net/forum/8
http://www.inkscapeforum.it/ (Italian language)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscape/forums
etc.

I must admit, I can see why Inkscape.org links to this site. In my humble opinion when it comes to forums I'm not a fan of the notion of too many options (and I'm very much into 'open source'). Having a large selections of forums thins out the community and the number of people who can answer questions, post good tutorials, etc.

I think you found them lol, I don't remember if I had any other in mind when I posted it.

Nabble is just a forum format for the Inkscape mailing lists, an archive and interface where you can search easily for older discussions.

Forums in other languages are very useful, they spread Inkscape to non-English speaking users.

I don't think we have anything to worry about the status of this forum it's been around for years and welcomed a lot of new Inkscape users

flamingolady wrote:Is there any reason that it would HAVE to be moved to the other site if this were voted as the official site?

In my opinion it cannot be official when it's owned by an individual. If I don't pay the bills, this forum will disappear. If I turn into a jerk I can delete this forum and there's nothing anybody can do about it. An individual shouldn't be able to bring an official Inkscpae.org the forum to an end. And I also don't think an official forum should display ads--not that I make a profit out it

Here's another good Inkscape site I've used for quite a while. It's a bit different, there are really good tuts on Inkscape, Gimp, Blender, etc, though most of the people there are Inkscapers (Inkscapists? what do we call ourselves, lol). Anyway, it's a place to share artwork and get advice, good for beginners, and just to chat, but not so much on development or bugs.
here's the link:
http://forums.learndigitaldesign.com/index.php

Micro, thanks for your comments, all good points. I guess I was thinking about this being a good start for a jump off point, not a permanent thing. Geez, I hope the ads at least pay for the bills to keep this thing rolling along. And I must say, this is one of the best run (if not THE best) sites/forums I've been on, so thanks a bunch for your sharing character! The moderators are also the best! (maybe one day waaaay down the road I'll have enough skills to be able to help out) until then, thanks to all who run this thing!

trusktr wrote:Maybe not! http://drupal.org/project/phpbb2drupal

If the main site runs on drupal, then yeah, that'd be a good idea to migrate to drupal.

If Drupal is already installed on inkscape.org, that means PHP and MySQL and everything are already installed. Moving phpBB to inkscape.org would simple involve copying the files over and exporting/importing the database.

Some clarifications. Firts of all, inkscapeforum.com is official forum. We link to it from inkscape.org ever since microugly wrote to inkscape-devel@ to suggest sharing ownership.

Next, the site doesn't run Drupal and probably never will. The ongoing work is to put everything to a custom Django setup. By the way, we would appreciate help with porting content.

Finally, hosting the forum on inkscape.org is certainly doable and probably will be done, but I'm the wrong person to ask for details right now. It's in the hands of Ian Caldwell.

prokoudine wrote:Firts of all, inkscapeforum.com is official forum. We link to it from inkscape.org ever since microugly wrote to inkscape-devel@ to suggest sharing ownership.

I only have a narrow view into Inkscape.org in terms of how it's ran and organised. So I didn't really realise this

prokoudine wrote:The ongoing work is to put everything to a custom Django setup. By the way, we would appreciate help with porting content.

Is there a resource that advises how people can participate?

microUgly wrote:Is there a resource that advises how people can participate?

I don't think so. But if you ever visit the IRC channel, Inc will be your primary contact.

microUgly wrote:Is there a resource that advises how people can participate?

Search the archives of the mailing lists 'inkscape-devel' and 'inkscape-user'. IIRC there is/was a Google doc used for brainstorming, as well as repeated calls for participation by Inc (Ian Caldwell). And a separate irc channel at freenode (#inkscape-web) …

microUgly wrote:

prokoudine wrote:Firts of all, inkscapeforum.com is official forum. We link to it from inkscape.org ever since microugly wrote to inkscape-devel@ to suggest sharing ownership.

I only have a narrow view into Inkscape.org in terms of how it's ran and organised. So I didn't really realise this

MicroUgly...

It is up to you what you do with your site. Add whatever tag-line you wish. Here are a few thoughts:

• "Then, where IS the official Inscape forum?" was my first question when I clicked the link at the Inkscape website and arrived seeing "unofficial" in your tag-line.

• prokoudine's quote above makes it clear that you have the honour of hosting the only linked forum.

• Perhaps a good middle ground tag-line would be The Inkscape Forum. The word "Unofficial" is probably ... unnecessary.

In my humble opinion.

Edit: Additionally, I wonder how much time the staff over at Inkscape.org have time to manage the forums? To be honest, I cannot see a difference between this site staying where it is, managed by MicroUgly ... or the entire contents of this site ported over to Inkscape.org and then the Inkscape team kindly asking MicroUgly to manage it once ported.

OpenSource is about everyone doing his/her part:

• Inkscape.org maintains and improves Inkscape.
• MicroUgly maintains and improves Inkscapeforum.org
• Members add to Inkscapeforum.org