why do not use DROPPER for text select?

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tunjin
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why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby tunjin » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:10 pm

hello

i problem:
my text is millions but i need to change color text selected but not work with DROPPER (keyboard: D or :tool_dropper: )???


BUT INKSCAPE works with select to SWATCHES (TOOLBAR-PALETTE) or change vaule RGB..

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby Grobe » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:45 am

I have no problems using the dropper.

You problem?
:lol:

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby brynn » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:01 am

You can read about how to properly use the dropper tool here: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL ... or-Dropper. If I recall from using a raster graphics program, it's kind of backwards in Inkscape.

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby ~suv » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:30 pm

The dropper tool only works on text objects themselves (as a whole), but not on highlighted portions of the text.

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby tunjin » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:22 pm

~suv wrote:The dropper tool only works on text objects themselves (as a whole), but not on highlighted portions of the text.

yes i wanted to say your quote but not on highlighted portions of the text. fo this i wanted to use dropper with highlighted portions of the text... but future version is add this new feature?

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby chriswww » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:45 pm

depending on your exact requirements. you might be able to achieve the effect using a multi-stop gradient. use two stops of the same color in same or nearly same location on the gradient, to achieve a non-gradual color change.
the other way is to convert the text to a path, and apply the color to your desired selection of letters/words. but then you can no longer edit as text.

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby ~suv » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:23 pm

chriswww wrote:depending on your exact requirements. you might be able to achieve the effect using a multi-stop gradient. use two stops of the same color in same or nearly same location on the gradient, to achieve a non-gradual color change.
the other way is to convert the text to a path, and apply the color to your desired selection of letters/words. but then you can no longer edit as text.

Why so complicated? Of course you can change the color of highlighted portions of text (without using a gradient or converting the text to path) - just not with the dropper tool. The normal way to assign a different color e.g. to a single word or a single letter within a text object is to highlight it within the text tool context and simple click on the new color in the palette below the canvas, or use the Fill&Stroke dialog.

You can use a picked color if needed, too - but it requires a two-step process: switch to the dropper tool, hover the area with the color you want to reuse for portions of your text, type 'Ctrl+C' to copy the color value to the clipboard. Switch to the text tool, highlight a part of your text object, and paste the color value from the clipboard into the 'RGBA' field in the Fill&Stroke dialog (Fill tab). Keep in mind to adjust the last two values (usually 'ff') at the end as needed (the 'A' of 'RGBA' for the transparency of the color: '00' is fully transparent, 'ff' is fully opaque.

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby tunjin » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:20 pm

yes, i did that
"You can use a picked color if needed, too - but it requires a two-step process: switch to the dropper tool, hover the area with the color you want to reuse for portions of your text, type 'Ctrl+C' to copy the color value to the clipboard. Switch to the text tool, highlight a part of your text object, and paste the color value from the clipboard into the 'RGBA' field in the Fill&Stroke dialog (Fill tab). Keep in mind to adjust the last two values (usually 'ff') at the end as needed (the 'A' of 'RGBA' for the transparency of the color: '00' is fully transparent, 'ff' is fully opaque."

infact this is long time.. there are is not fast? for me my opinion is add feature: dropper for text select( highlight).

i use a lot time for change color highlight text about 135 paragraph.. this is mean a lot time job, right?

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby chriswww » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:14 pm

i wouldn't automatically assume that just because a person would like a feature that would save lots of time, equates to the feature making it into some priority development queue. this forum is not the place anyway to make feature requests...but sometimes people can help enough so that it doesn't get requested in the first place. software bloat is not a good thing in general. inkscape--as well as svg files themselves--do provide ways of working not just using the built-in gui interface. If the feature request is rejected (when actually submitted for dev team approval) and in the meantime, since features don't just get requested and then built at lightning speed, it might be worthwhile to investigate other ways of doing this reapeated(?) long task. And to that end..are there any distinguishing features in the "paragraphs" that would identify the bits that need coloring? As in any text pattern identifies where coloring should start and stop?

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby brynn » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:12 am

Hi tunjin,
I have a couple of comments. Would it be possible to divide your text, so that the sections you want a different color, are single objects? Or like before, too much work?

Also, since you've asked about this as a new feature, I wanted to tell you about Launchpad, Inkscape's bug tracker, and also the proper place to request new features. https://launchpad.net/inkscape From there, you can search to find out if it has already been requested. And if it has not, then you can submit a new feature request "bug report".

~suv probably already knows if it's been requested, and I've read her comments here. But she hasn't said.

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby ~suv » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:28 pm

brynn wrote:~suv probably already knows if it's been requested, and I've read her comments here. But she hasn't said.

Bug #166951 in Inkscape: “dropper cannot color text selection

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby brynn » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:44 pm

Awesome ~suv!
Thank you very much. And tunjin, now we know that the problem/new feature request is known to developers. Now we've done all we can do, and must be patient....very, very patient, and eventually we will have (hopefully) the ability to color only selected portions of text.

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Re: why do not use DROPPER for text select?

Postby chriswww » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:19 pm

not that i'm trying to flog a particular horse, so to speak. but (again) if there's some kind of text pattern that would automatically intend certain text to be colored, than it would be possibly(?) more robust and efficient to do it with scripting/other tools; rather than lots of manual labor and eye strain and frustration when selection inverts/drops/etc as happens with repetitive tasks.


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