How to reduce the gap/space?

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How to reduce the gap/space?

Postby nihon94 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:14 am

I want to make a shape with 30 lines. I want to reduce the in between space among lines, but I do not know how could I do that?
So far I have tried, clone and stamping to achieve the style as described in screen shot No.3

I used Clone with the following settings.(other than default)
Symmetry
Shift Y -100
P1 simple translation
Rows, columns 60, 1

Scale exponent 1
Alternate checked

Per Row
Rotation angle 6

If you take a look at the screen shot, in No.1 it is full circle, the 2nd one is half because I needed 30 lines, but I want the shape with 30 lines as in No.3.
So, question is how could I achieve such style using Clone tool or else?
I have also tried, stamping but the space in between is larger then the above clone, I do not know how I could reduce that space in snapping or grid etc.

Any idea or advice please.
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Re: How to reduce the gap/space?

Postby brynn » Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:59 am

Hhmm...I have a few questions. First, can you remind me how stamping is done. I know I've done it before, but I can't remember how, and can't find in manual.

I think I understand what you're asking, but I'm confused about some details that you mentioned. I can't recreate your circle there, with those settings, for Tiled Clones dialog. What am I missing? I know I've done that before myself, but I can't remember how.

For the result, you want a shape like #3, correct? I counted #3, and it has 27 lines. You want the same shape, but using 30 lines. So that means you need to reduce the space between the lines (or in other words, reducte the angles)? Correct?

It sounds like you want to use your current #2, and move each object over (i.e. rotate it), until it looks like #3, except with 30 objects. I wonder if you could reduce the Rotation angle in Tiled Clones dialog? Would that work, or do I not understand yet?

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Re: How to reduce the gap/space?

Postby nihon94 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:43 am

brynn wrote:Hhmm...I have a few questions. First, can you remind me how stamping is done. I know I've done it before, but I can't remember how, and can't find in manual.

I think I understand what you're asking, but I'm confused about some details that you mentioned. I can't recreate your circle there, with those settings, for Tiled Clones dialog. What am I missing? I know I've done that before myself, but I can't remember how.

For the result, you want a shape like #3, correct? I counted #3, and it has 27 lines. You want the same shape, but using 30 lines. So that means you need to reduce the space between the lines (or in other words, reduce the angles)? Correct?

It sounds like you want to use your current #2, and move each object over (i.e. rotate it), until it looks like #3, except with 30 objects. I wonder if you could reduce the Rotation angle in Tiled Clones dialog? Would that work, or do I not understand yet?

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How to stamp(in my case)
create a rectangle
click on it corner arrows change a kind of rounded
in the middle there is a Plus sign drag that to the bottom
press the left mouse button and and hold the space bar and move
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How to clone
Refer screen shots for reading.
apply those reading and you will have 60 lines circle.

You are right you said,
"It sounds like you want to use your current #2, and move each object over (i.e. rotate it), until it looks like #3, except with 30 objects. I wonder if you could reduce the Rotation angle in Tiled Clones dialog? Would that work, or do I not understand yet?"

Thank you
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Re: How to reduce the gap/space?

Postby brynn » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:49 am

Drag the plus sign to the bottom of what?

Oh, I think I see what I had wrong in Tiled Clones. I thought the - before 100, was a dash, not the negative 100. Let me try again, give some more thought, and I'll reply again shortly :D

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Re: How to reduce the gap/space?

Postby brynn » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:25 am

Ok, I got the radially tiled clones working. While I don't understand moving the rotation center for the stamping, I did discover that you also have to move the rotation center to make the tiling go radially.

I don't know of any way to accurately rotate your clones, so that the space between is smaller, i.e. so that the angle between them is smaller. Depending on how the original object is made, there might be a way to manipulate the nodes, to make something similar to what you want. But I don't think it will be close enough.

The only thing I can think to do, is reduce the angle on the Rotation tab, and increase the number of rows. When I changed the angle to 5.0 and increased rows to 72, it looks pretty close to what you need. Of course you'll still have to delete all the clones that you don't want, like before.

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Re: How to reduce the gap/space?

Postby nihon94 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:31 pm

brynn wrote:Ok, I got the radially tiled clones working. While I don't understand moving the rotation center for the stamping, I did discover that you also have to move the rotation center to make the tiling go radially.

I don't know of any way to accurately rotate your clones, so that the space between is smaller, i.e. so that the angle between them is smaller. Depending on how the original object is made, there might be a way to manipulate the nodes, to make something similar to what you want. But I don't think it will be close enough.

The only thing I can think to do, is reduce the angle on the Rotation tab, and increase the number of rows. When I changed the angle to 5.0 and increased rows to 72, it looks pretty close to what you need. Of course you'll still have to delete all the clones that you don't want, like before.

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Thank you for reply.
I followed your advice and used the settings as angle 5 and rows to 72 the result was nearly as I wanted.
Later I also tried using Bezier tool Mode: regular, shape none and one by one drew lines. Though it took time but the outcome was also good.
Last night I have finalized what I was designing.

Thank you for your help and support always.


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