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/Tommy Hjalmarsson
Pure Open Source
Re: Pure Open Source
Hey hjalle,
Nice work but and there is a but, If I where to have made this cartoon this is how it would go.
There would be these excited kids that are feeling the power of creating. They would be inspired buy the cool songs playing on their ogg compliant players and computers. Excited to create their own music and quickly and easily download and start using free programs without finding the funds first (money best suited on buying gear).
They would be brainstorming about how to get away from wine and make their own games and about how they can go about solving the current problems affecting the Open Source gaming sector.
They would be making movies, video, tutorials and animations. They would be sharing. They would be enjoying the challenges that present themselves because they know that they can work together and with others around the world to find a solution. Not just waiting around to be handed one.
They are happy knowing that they will return home knowing that they actually learned something at camp. The kid next door returns with a macaroni noodle necklace.
That's how I see it.
Peace.
But still the art is cool.
Nice work but and there is a but, If I where to have made this cartoon this is how it would go.
There would be these excited kids that are feeling the power of creating. They would be inspired buy the cool songs playing on their ogg compliant players and computers. Excited to create their own music and quickly and easily download and start using free programs without finding the funds first (money best suited on buying gear).
They would be brainstorming about how to get away from wine and make their own games and about how they can go about solving the current problems affecting the Open Source gaming sector.
They would be making movies, video, tutorials and animations. They would be sharing. They would be enjoying the challenges that present themselves because they know that they can work together and with others around the world to find a solution. Not just waiting around to be handed one.
They are happy knowing that they will return home knowing that they actually learned something at camp. The kid next door returns with a macaroni noodle necklace.
That's how I see it.
Peace.
But still the art is cool.
Re: Pure Open Source
Well, let me explain. The illustration is made with InkScape, and I love it, on a laptop with Ubuntu 9.04. I have two more computer, one with Ubuntu Studio 9.04 and one with Win Vista. And I love Open Source, and I love my proprietary 3D Studio Max on my Win computer.This illustration is not "against" Open Source.
In the Open Source collective there are people who believe in "pure" Open Source, no MP3, VMA, DivX, DOC and so on. If we take Open Office for example, It's a great program and I use it on all my computers. One great thing about it is that I can open and save word and excel document. I can communicate with other programs (Proprietary software). I can work with customer who use Microsoft Office with a free program, it's great. Open Office is big "because it's open" to other proprietary programs.
If we take music. I have used Rhythmbox earlier fore my music on a Ubuntu computer. After I upgrade to Ubuntu 9.04 the Rhythmbox player refused to play my VMA files (with the ugly pack). Music is not file format, It's my history, my life. Wy should people be interested to move over from Windows to Ubuntu if there are forced to convert there "life" to "pure open source format". The program Songbird plays "all" format on Windows, on GNU/Linux it is not. On GNU/Linux Songbird is more closed than open for the "user".
The people in the camp are the people who really really hate proprietary software and Microsoft, and there file formats. The people who thinks that MP3,VMA, Wine, DOC is pure evil.
The "pure open source " people should get there one GNU/Linux releases. "Closed" Open Source work against them self, and us.
/Tommy Hjalmarsson
In the Open Source collective there are people who believe in "pure" Open Source, no MP3, VMA, DivX, DOC and so on. If we take Open Office for example, It's a great program and I use it on all my computers. One great thing about it is that I can open and save word and excel document. I can communicate with other programs (Proprietary software). I can work with customer who use Microsoft Office with a free program, it's great. Open Office is big "because it's open" to other proprietary programs.
If we take music. I have used Rhythmbox earlier fore my music on a Ubuntu computer. After I upgrade to Ubuntu 9.04 the Rhythmbox player refused to play my VMA files (with the ugly pack). Music is not file format, It's my history, my life. Wy should people be interested to move over from Windows to Ubuntu if there are forced to convert there "life" to "pure open source format". The program Songbird plays "all" format on Windows, on GNU/Linux it is not. On GNU/Linux Songbird is more closed than open for the "user".
The people in the camp are the people who really really hate proprietary software and Microsoft, and there file formats. The people who thinks that MP3,VMA, Wine, DOC is pure evil.
The "pure open source " people should get there one GNU/Linux releases. "Closed" Open Source work against them self, and us.
/Tommy Hjalmarsson
Re: Pure Open Source
Hey Tommy
Thanks for explaining your position. I know what you mean. That is why I use Linux Mint. Sorry if I jumped to conclusions. Again, nice art.
Thanks for explaining your position. I know what you mean. That is why I use Linux Mint. Sorry if I jumped to conclusions. Again, nice art.
Re: Pure Open Source
The picture is in the eyes of the beholder. 
Re: Pure Open Source
RedGhost wrote: That is why I use Linux Mint.
I Use Mint on my Win computer as a virtual machine to use InkScape and Gimp, working better in GNU/Linux than Win
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Jayk
Re: Pure Open Source
It looks fantastic! But I cannot understand why you made a cross through the OpenGL logo? I think that this is exactly how Richard Stallman describes the difference between free software and open source (concerning the attitude of the followers towards proprietary software). I agree with you, by the way.
Re: Pure Open Source
OpenGL trademark is owned by Silicon Graphics.
I don't think the entire OpenGL source code is under GPL License
http://www.sgi.com/products/software/opengl/license.html
Mesa3D is an open-source implementation of the OpenGL specification.
http://www.mesa3d.org/
I don't think the entire OpenGL source code is under GPL License
http://www.sgi.com/products/software/opengl/license.html
Mesa3D is an open-source implementation of the OpenGL specification.
http://www.mesa3d.org/
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CarlCravens
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Re: Pure Open Source
Oh, yeah... this is a great picture of the real world. If OSS developers can't compromise, can't accept that the world is what it is and won't change overnight, then we cut ourselves off from a vast number of desirable options. Especially when some of those options are things that businesses have to provide us, and the business doesn't see any value in using open formats and DRM-free media.
I follow the core Debian development (from which Ubuntu and myriad others are derived) and the no-Compromise-and-suffer versus Compromise-and-have-more-freedom debate is a big one. I think Compromise is the way to go... it's not the Ideal, it's not perfect, but it brings people to Linux who otherwise would not use it. And the more people there are using Linux, the more pressure there is on companies to recognize and support the platform. We are slowly freeing ourselves of non-Open dependencies, but it's a long road.
I follow the core Debian development (from which Ubuntu and myriad others are derived) and the no-Compromise-and-suffer versus Compromise-and-have-more-freedom debate is a big one. I think Compromise is the way to go... it's not the Ideal, it's not perfect, but it brings people to Linux who otherwise would not use it. And the more people there are using Linux, the more pressure there is on companies to recognize and support the platform. We are slowly freeing ourselves of non-Open dependencies, but it's a long road.