Newbie with big project needs help

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Evolbaby
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Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Evolbaby » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:50 am

Okay so my question is simple but it's an emergency.

Been doing hundreds of t-shirt sized black and white graphics. 2000 plus pixels in width in jpg format.

I go and start a new file in Inkscape, drag/drop the graphic from my file in and save embed in svg. When
I open the file only one section of the graphic shows even though in the original file the whole image is there.

I know this is some simple solution but I need to get this done fast. So is the image I'm using too big or
did I miss a step?

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Lazur » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:04 am

Hi!

Can't tell you missed a step as I don't know what exactly you did, how your svg looks.
So you drag/dropped the image. Did you try to import it instead?
I'm not sure, but maybe by simple dropping in an image from the clipboard won't get embedded.
Some inkscape preferencies for that? Not sure, better import it by the import file option.
Where you can make sure it will get embedded.

When you open, only one section appears.
What you saved the file to, and what did you used for it to open?
Do you want to print straight from svg, thus opened it in a browser to check?
Or you saved the svg to a pdf? And opened it in a pdf reader.
Either way, could it be that they are off the displaying area?
For an example you saved to a pdf, where you set the area to be the page, but it's smaller then the drawing?
Or, all the things are at their right position, only parts not appearing while they should?
If so, did you exported the svg to png that didn't capture all the parts?
If so, you may try out the development build that has an improved rendering engine (? not sure, at least on screen).

Worst scenario I could think of, that you saved your design to a pdf, and somehow the images turned to be pattern fills of some paths.
That can screw up the rendering in most cases.
If we could look at the original svg, we could help more.

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby hulf2012 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:08 am

Hello:
Well, on your right hand, there must be a vertical bar, with three icons of a magnifying glass. Select the middle of those icons, or just press "4".
If that solved your problem, the next step is:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/index.html


Don't get me wrong. But I fell that you aren't begining your project with the right food.

Now I see Lazur's answer. mmm... Maybe I'm giving a wrong answer, but I still think that it's a bad begining for a project: not knowing your tools.
If you have problems:
1.- Post a sample (or samples) of your file please.
2.- Please check here:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/index.html
3.- If you manage to solve your problem, please post here your solution.

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Xav » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:48 pm

I'm going with hulf's suggestion on this one.

When you drop a bitmap image into Inkscape it's pulled in at 90dpi. So a 2000 pixel wide image will be 22", or over 1/2 a meter wide. As such it's likely to be far bigger than the page size you've got Inkscape showing, so much of it will be outside the visible area.

Once you've pressed "4" (zoom to fit drawing in window) you should be able to select the image using the :tool_selector: tool in order to get some resize handles. You can then resize it - probably holding CTRL to keep the propoprtions - using those handles. You can also use the W and H boxes in the tool control bar if you want to set a specific size.

Zooming, panning and resizing are fundamental to using Inkscape effectively, so you should probably read some tutorials and play around a bit to get used to the basics of Inkscape before you head off on your big project.
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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Evolbaby » Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:27 am

Okay thanks for the replies but I think you guys went the complex route. All I needed to know was how to resize 'in' Inkscape after the file is opened. Normally I can drag and drop or open. I choose 'embedd' and then do the svg conversion thing. select the art and save as svg. Problem is the image dimensions are too big so only a small section appears. So the simple question is during the process is there a way to change the image's dimensions to fit the image screen so that on output the image fits.

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Lazur » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:02 am

You can set the document's size at the document's properties panel.
As described in your other topic, you better not scale your embedded raster images.
Simply select the image, press Shift+Ctrl+D and click on the resize page to selection.

In the manual is a tutorial you may check as well:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/AShortExample.html

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Maestral » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:57 pm

I`m just curious....

Are you importing raster images (.jpg) in Inkscape and than do the svg conversion thing just by selecting and saving it as .svg?
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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Evolbaby » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:40 am

Maestral, yes as well as drag and drop but I get the same problem. What I've decided to do is just batch resize from now on. I can see the option to change size but it doesn't keep the aspect ratio.

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Maestral » Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:44 am

Well, I was curious because this way (as you described it) you will end up with just another raster image, yet with a different file extension. So, why would you even deploy vector editing software for a such operation?

On the other hand, if you match sizes of your original .jpg and a New document in Inkscape - I can`t imagine what could go wrong. Let`s say your .jpg is 2400x3200 pixels, so your New document in Inkscape should be of the same size and the magic might occur while importing it embedded or just linked or even drag&dropped. Out of my expectations, Inkscape in fact does not automatically align imported images and I was surprised only because I usually just drag&drop them so I had no previous experience with Import function.

"- I can see the option to change size but it doesn't keep the aspect ratio."
- But, hey, does it mean that you also haven`t seen that tiny text saying: Image
"- You think it would actually do it automatically, accurately and precisely for me?"
- Yes.

Could you please indulge my curiosity and tell us just a tiny bit more about your Big project?!
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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Evolbaby » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:09 am

Okay my head is less foggy here so let me go wayyyy back to the beginning. What I want is to have the finished svg file the same size as the image i've imported. So if I import>embed>trace to bitmap a 1,000 px image, when I save as or export it will be the same size when opened up and viewed. For some reason Inkscape chops the images to 500 px. Bear with me, Inkscape is a wonderful looking program and maybe it's too steep a gradient to learn on the fly but I'm looking for just simple uses first. BTW I work in comics and animation and online graphics which is why I'm asking as a big project needs to be done. Thanks..

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Lazur » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:38 am

If you save as png, it will be rendered to a fix 72 dpi image, resulting in a smaller size, and maybe some pixelation issues are appearing too.
By exporting at the default 90 dpi settings, you will get the size of the exported image exactly as what's the size of the image was set in the svg.
Use the mentioned document's properties panel to resize canvas borders to the image you embedded.

Could you post an example?
I'm wondering what's it all about.
As you describe, you have a raster image you want to auto-trace, then export the result to another raster image with the exact same size?
By doing that you are loosing details, does it really work?

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Maestral » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:26 am

Oh, well... Lazur URH was here.
Still, might help, right!?

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Lazur » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:05 pm

Off topic:
SVG Image

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Re: Newbie with big project needs help

Postby Evolbaby » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:53 pm

Solved the problem. Went to Document Properties and changed canvas size. Thanks.


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