Hi again,
For some reason, which I hope to learn here, I can no longer make dots using Ctrl + click. Here's what I've tried as far as troubleshooting so far:

1 -- I made sure that the pen and pencil tools have their own style in Inkscape Prefs, ie - they don't take their style from the last time I used them (in case the last use had no fill or was fully transparent). Also made sure their width isn't zero.
2 -- I made sure I was not trying to make the dots on a layer with no visibility.
3 -- I've made lines with both tools, so they are otherwise working.
4 -- I've made a few dots and tried rubberband selecting over the area, in case they are there, but can't be seen. Nada.
5 -- I've tried changing the color of a line I've just made, then tried to create dots, hoping that somehow the new color might force them to show up.
6 -- None of the 3 locking keys on my keyboard are engaged (not sure if it would matter anyway).

More info:
-- With the pencil or pen chosen, in the upper right corner, it shows the tool's style, and both are just as they are shown in the Inkscape Prefs (black stroke, size = 1, no fill).
-- In the status bar, when I Ctrl + click to make a dot, it says "Creating single dot".
-- The only thing I can see that I'm not sure is right, is in the bottom left corner, it shows no stroke and black fill. However, as I said, both tools otherwise function as expected, and they both show the black fill/no stroke in the bottom left corner (before I start making the making the line).

This has been a sudden change, I was making single dots just a few days ago, and can't think of any changes I've made that might cause this. Can't really think of any changes, other than normal image editing, at all.

Any ideas?
Thanks for your help

Have you tried creating a dot in a new document?

Ok, I did just now. It works!
What's the deal?

[Edit] Whoa!!! Thinking along the same lines as my missing clipping path in another recent topic, I thought maybe the dots could be elsewhere on the canvas. And YES! There are all the dots I've been trying to make, some 1500 to 1800 pixels to the left, completely out of the viewing area, even at 50% zoom.

What's happening here?

This might something you need to discuss with a developer who has a better understanding of how Inkscape works. Clearly it's a bug--most like the same bug as with the clipping.

Thanks micro.
Do you mean literally speak with a developer one-on-one? If so, who and how? Email? How would I figure out which developer handles this kind of issue? Or do you mean make a bug report?

Either way, I'll wait until you can open the svg file in my new topic on clipping, because indeed we may have stumbled upon something much bigger than a glitch.

All best

brynn wrote:Do you mean literally speak with a developer one-on-one? If so, who and how? Email? How would I figure out which developer handles this kind of issue? Or do you mean make a bug report?

I meant to ask on the developers mailing list--not to get fix, but to get a work around. It seems to me that something you've done has changed the properties of your document to create this behaviour (maybe through the use of effects). By speaking to a developer you may be able to find out how it happened and what to do to reverse it or avoid it.

Since it sounds like this is the same bug as you've already reported, except triggered a different way, you might like to add information to the current report. Remember to provide the file so they can replicate the problem.

Either way, I'll wait until you can open the svg file in my new topic on clipping, because indeed we may have stumbled upon something much bigger than a glitch.

I don't think I'll be able to offer any information after viewing the file. I'm sure Inkscape is picking up some transformation settings from within the SVG and applying it to the object. My knowledge of SVG isn't developed enough to know where it could possibly be picking up the values from or why it's picking them up. This is something a developer might be able to help with.

Ok, I'll add a comment with a new file to the other bug report. Because I don't participate or even receive the mailing list.

Maybe I'll add the tiled clone file as well.

Thanks again for your help

[Edit] Both issues added to Bug #284709

Also, I'm rewording the title of this topic for easier searchability.