A bunch of ideas from PSP.

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Marcelongo

A bunch of ideas from PSP.

Postby Marcelongo » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:58 am

Well, I've been playing with Inskacpe for a couple of months now, and I think I have some useful ideas that I borrowed from (the now basically dead) Paint Shop Pro. So, let's see what you think about them...

- It would be great if you could set your document background to have a checkerboard pattern, not a solid color. Sometimes you work with images that have different colors and ... it can be a mess sometimes.

- More objects transformations with the mouse. Currently, if you want perspective, you have to use the effects menu. One of the greatest thing of PSP, is that you select an object, or group of objects (or paths) and you can drag the handlers to produce different effects. For example, perspective, you start with a square, then just drag the, say, top left handler to the right while pressing Ctrl and you end up with a trapezoid. Or you drag a handler while pressing Ctrl-Shift and you can distort the shape to whatever direction you want. Obviously, in Inkscape we already have Ctrl, Shift, and Alt used for other things, but... I don't know, maybe a new tool?

- Shapes or clipart gallery. Currently you have your "basic shapes collection" in a folder. Then, when you need them you have to import them as you would import any other file. It would be really nice to have the function incorporated in Inkscape itself.

- "Object explorer". In PSP you have this palette that shows you all your layers and object and groups in a tree-like style. Its very useful when you are struggling to select some object hidden behind 15 other things :). You just use this palette. You can see miniatures of the objects themselves, so it's really easy to find something there. You can also change the Z-order of the objects by dragging them in this palette... It's a fantastic thing.

- Double click in textboxes (I don't know if this is something with Inkscape or GTK). What happens when you want to select a whole word on a text field? You just double click the word. Well, in the color Hex code textbox, if you double click the code, you end up with some kind of "similarity" selection. If you double click a number, then only adjacent numbers get selected. If you double click a letter, then only letters get selected. It's kind of frustrating...

- Triangle in the color wheel. What about changing the triangle to a square? You have luminescence in the Y-axis, and saturation in the X-axis. I find it a lot more easy to use, for two things: 1) you have more space, it's bigger. 2) You can easily modify one parameter without modifying the other.

- Recent colors popup. In PSP, in any place you can select a color, you can right-click and you get this "recently used colors" popup menu. It shows you the 10 last picked colors or gradients... Again, it's a fantastic thing...

- Node rotation. Again in PSP, when you select a group of nodes, you get a box around them, and you can use this box almost as you would use a box around an object. You get the rotation handle, so you can rotate the selected nodes. Currently the rotation transformation in Inkaspe only works with whole objects, not nodes.

- Path highlighting. I think it would be a lot more easy to see if the path (when editing nodes) were XORed color instead of the one defined in the Inkcape preferences.

- Editing of numbers in spinedits. In PSP, below every spinedit box, you have this kind of "progress bar". So you can insert a number by typing it, by clicking the up and down buttons, or by clicking and dragging in this "progress bar". It pretty handy when you are trying values for something.

Anyway... It think that Inkscape designers could get a whole bunch of nice ideas from PSP.

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Re: A bunch of ideas from PSP.

Postby prkos » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:41 am

Marcelongo wrote:Well, I've been playing with Inskacpe for a couple of months now, and I think I have some useful ideas that I borrowed from (the now basically dead) Paint Shop Pro. So, let's see what you think about them...

- It would be great if you could set your document background to have a checkerboard pattern, not a solid color. Sometimes you work with images that have different colors and ... it can be a mess sometimes.

Request already in the bug tracker

Marcelongo wrote:- More objects transformations with the mouse. Currently, if you want perspective, you have to use the effects menu. One of the greatest thing of PSP, is that you select an object, or group of objects (or paths) and you can drag the handlers to produce different effects. For example, perspective, you start with a square, then just drag the, say, top left handler to the right while pressing Ctrl and you end up with a trapezoid. Or you drag a handler while pressing Ctrl-Shift and you can distort the shape to whatever direction you want. Obviously, in Inkscape we already have Ctrl, Shift, and Alt used for other things, but... I don't know, maybe a new tool?

You can use mouse in effects can't you? There are no modifier keys AFAIK but you can always help yourself with grid and guides.

Marcelongo wrote:- "Object explorer". In PSP you have this palette that shows you all your layers and object and groups in a tree-like style. Its very useful when you are struggling to select some object hidden behind 15 other things :). You just use this palette. You can see miniatures of the objects themselves, so it's really easy to find something there. You can also change the Z-order of the objects by dragging them in this palette... It's a fantastic thing.

You can already do some of this stuff in XML editor, but the request to make it better it already in the tracker and some work has been done ni that direction but we can't know when or if this will be implemented.

Marcelongo wrote:- Double click in textboxes (I don't know if this is something with Inkscape or GTK). What happens when you want to select a whole word on a text field? You just double click the word. Well, in the color Hex code textbox, if you double click the code, you end up with some kind of "similarity" selection. If you double click a number, then only adjacent numbers get selected. If you double click a letter, then only letters get selected. It's kind of frustrating...
Can you clarify what behavior would be good for you?

Marcelongo wrote:- Recent colors popup. In PSP, in any place you can select a color, you can right-click and you get this "recently used colors" popup menu. It shows you the 10 last picked colors or gradients... Again, it's a fantastic thing...
I'd like that too :)

Marcelongo wrote:- Node rotation. Again in PSP, when you select a group of nodes, you get a box around them, and you can use this box almost as you would use a box around an object. You get the rotation handle, so you can rotate the selected nodes. Currently the rotation transformation in Inkaspe only works with whole objects, not nodes.
It works in Inkscape but using the keyboard shortcut (Alt [ and Alt ] IIRC)

Marcelongo wrote:- Path highlighting. I think it would be a lot more easy to see if the path (when editing nodes) were XORed color instead of the one defined in the Inkcape preferences.
Request already in the bug tracker

Marcelongo wrote:- Editing of numbers in spinedits. In PSP, below every spinedit box, you have this kind of "progress bar". So you can insert a number by typing it, by clicking the up and down buttons, or by clicking and dragging in this "progress bar". It pretty handy when you are trying values for something.
It would be a nice addition to the interface :)
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Re: A bunch of ideas from PSP.

Postby Marcelongo » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:01 am

prkos wrote:
Marcelongo wrote:- More objects transformations with the mouse...

You can use mouse in effects can't you? There are no modifier keys AFAIK but you can always help yourself with grid and guides.


Mouse in effect?! What!? Can you explain that? I haven't seen that feature... I don't know if I made my self clear here... What you can do in PSP is create different kinds of perspective by dragging groups of object directly (no node editing or anything like that). Real time, a "just-in-time perspective". Usually I have great troubles to draw thing in perspective. In PSP I can draw things flat, and then select all and drag the corner. It's a lot easier, I can tell you.

prkos wrote:
Marcelongo wrote:- Double click in textboxes [...]

Can you clarify what behavior would be good for you?


Suppose you are in the Fill & Stroke dialog and you want to select the current color, so you can use it in about 10 seconds in the next shape you are about to draw. So you double click the text in RGBA text filed at the bottom of the dialog. Normally, I would expect to get the whole text selected. But, instead, I get part of the text. It depends on the type of character you actually double clicked. I you have, say, "6cc547ff", and double click the "4", then you get selected "547", and not the whole number. You have to either select all by dragging with your mouse, or press Ctrl-A.

prkos wrote:
Marcelongo wrote:- Node rotation. ...

It works in Inkscape but using the keyboard shortcut (Alt [ and Alt ] IIRC)


Yes, but then you're putting more thing in the keyboard. Remember that these types of combinations are fine for an English keyboard, but for other languages they are not. I thing that depending (Ahh!... I cant find the word for this, sorry :)) only in the keyboard it's not a good thing...


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