[solved] more snap frustration

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[solved] more snap frustration

Postby brynn » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:52 pm

Hello
Is there any way to get the 2 highlighted nodes to snap to each other? Here's a link to a screen shot showing the relevant portion of an image, along with the Snap settings.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4846 ... 808xb2.png

I'm still under the impression that nodes should be able to snap to each other. But the only way I've found to do that is to use a grid; in which case the nodes are apparently snapping to the grid and not to each other.

Unfortunately, I can't really use a grid for this project. Basically I need the nodes directly on top of each other. If snap doesn't work, is editing the nodes coordinates the only way to do it?

Thanks for your help :D

[Edit - Sorry it's so big but I have some vision problems.]

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Re: more snap frustration

Postby brynn » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:19 pm

Oops, nevermind :oops:
I think I already knew that nodes aren't supposed to snap to each other. I've been snapping nodes together with a grid in another project, but it hadn't actually "sunk in" that the nodes are snapping to the grid, not to each other.

Sorry to be so dense, lol :roll: I'll use the coordinates.

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Re: more snap frustration

Postby prkos » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:29 am

It works in dev build, but not in the official 0.46 as far as I can tell. Download the latest build and you'll have it ;)

It just doesn't work in a way to highlight both nodes, because when you start to move one the other will move too. Highlight one and move it towards the other, they will snap if you have those 2 options ticked in Snap preferences (Snap nodes and Snap to Nodes)
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Re: more snap frustration

Postby brynn » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:45 pm

It just doesn't work in a way to highlight both nodes, because when you start to move one the other will move too. Highlight one and move it towards the other, they will snap if you have those 2 options ticked in Snap preferences (Snap nodes and Snap to Nodes)

Oh right prkos, yes! Perhaps it was a poor choice, but I only highlighted the nodes for the screen shot, to make them more visible against the otherwise somewhat dark page (which is a compensation for my cataracts). I know that one would not highlight both nodes to snap them together.

Thanks for the info re the dev build. Somehow I think I may have already known that too, that nodes can snap to each other in the newer v's. The problem is that my v 0.46, which for some reason is called "stable", crashes on me several times daily. So it's hard for me to imagine having the patience to deal with "not stable", you know?

Anyway for now, my personal choice is going to be using the coordinates...until the next "stable" release :mrgreen:

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Re: more snap frustration

Postby prkos » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:04 pm

I always have at least 2 versions on my system, one stable and one in development with the latest features. Mostly I use the development one, the new stuff is so great I quickly become addicted and can't do without.

I use the stable one only when I have to, currently Printing to a File using vector rendering crashes the dev build. So I edit my drawing in the dev build, open it in 0.46 and Print to a file when needed.

Crashes aren't something to be feared of. I also felt a bit nervous when I was a newbie, you feel like the crash is unpredictable, sitting around the corner waiting for you. But with time you see that crashes are reproducible, avoid the steps that cause it and you'll be safe. You have to save your work often anyway in any application, it's just good practise.

Does your 0.46 always crash in the same place, do you know if there's a bug filed about it? Maybe it's been solved by now so you would profit from installing a dev version if you say 0.46 crashes so often.
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Re: more snap frustration

Postby brynn » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:55 pm

Does your 0.46 always crash in the same place, do you know if there's a bug filed about it?

It does often seem to crash in similar situations. Especially I've noticed when I'm experimenting with Effects, and also with Tiled Clones. But I haven't tested to determine exactly what sequence causes the crash. Then there are times when it crashes for no apparent reason.

Anyway, thanks for your comments prkos, I appreciate your support. I'm not sure my skills are such that I need to have the newest features ahead of "stable releases". Maybe I will reach that point, but for now, I'm still learning what I consider basic Inkscape skills. I will definitely keep the possibility of using a dev build in mind, though.

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Re: more snap frustration

Postby Jaws » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:10 pm

You could use the - Align and Distribute - dialog. With the two nodes selected, click on both the - Align selected nodes horizontally, - and Align selected nodes vertically.

Once they're on top of each other, using the node tool throughout this method and with a click and hold, they can be move together to your desired location. v0.46

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Re: more snap frustration

Postby brynn » Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:50 am

Oh wow, thanks Jaws!
That works very well, and is quite a bit faster than editing the coordinates. I did look at the Align and Distribute dialog, when searching for alternatives. But it didn't occur to me that aligning BOTH horizontally and vertically would put them on top of each other.

I see that it does matter in which order I select the nodes, because the aligning is done relative to the node selected 2nd. This seems to be true, even if 3 or more nodes are to be aligned.

Good tip, although I do look forwards to the snapping of nodes, for sure ;)


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