Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

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Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby Guest » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:19 pm

I tested the vector program on aviary.com and was amazed at how good an interface can be, even though the program lacks a lot of functions. Why can't the Inkscape team do the same?

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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby llogg » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:35 pm

disagree.

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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby druban » Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:32 am

I visited aviary's site. Nice idea. Nothing new in offering a server side application. Window management is nonexistent -error running this script keeps turning up - probably because it can't handle any non standard screen.
Vector tools are pretty rudimentary. Easy to hve a simple interface if all you have is simple functionality! If you are happy with this program even the GIMP has comparable vector tools.
Just my two cents. Inkscape was at least this good a long time ago.
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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby brynn » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:46 am

Yes, I agree with druban. The real challenge in creating a great interface comes when a program starts having much more functionality than can really fit on one page, without reducing the canvas size. I don't have a whole lot of experience with different graphics programs, but I chose Inkscape over GIMP, because I liked the interface better, even though Inkscape is a vector program, with far less support that's readily available than raster programs have (like GIMP)

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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby Guest » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:58 pm

I'm using the Windows version of Inkscape and it's really cumbersome. Aviary doesn't have much functions (yet), but at least they have a good base for the interface. The icons, buttons and sliders are big enough to be identified on bigger screen resolutions, I like how you can minimize the windows on the right to small icons - in Inkscape the stripe on the right looks awkward. Aviary obviously made some thoughts about the interface and not just throw everything together like in Inkscape.

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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby druban » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:44 am

Guest wrote:I'm using the Windows version of Inkscape and it's really cumbersome. Aviary doesn't have much functions (yet), but at least they have a good base for the interface. The icons, buttons and sliders are big enough to be identified on bigger screen resolutions, I like how you can minimize the windows on the right to small icons - in Inkscape the stripe on the right looks awkward. Aviary obviously made some thoughts about the interface and not just throw everything together like in Inkscape.


I get the impression that:
1) You are not familiar with the design by request and consensus process by which Inkscape has arrived at its present interface which is neither cumbersome nor thrown together and is more customizable than many commercial apps
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2)You have a personal stake in promoting Aviary in this forum which is fine (with me at least) but you're doing it no favors by making these unsupportable claims

As for minimizing windows, this is a task best handled by your operating system's windows manager, or a third party task manager. The one I use (anvir) lets me do several useful things with windows in all my apps. In Inkscape for example:

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Inkscape also has its own transparency feature for unfocused windows that is very functional.

But thanks for bringing Aviary to my attention. It certainly makes me appreciate a gem like Inkscape all the more!
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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby RM. » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:54 am

is there a way to change inkscape interface? like a theme?
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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby llogg » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:11 pm

I think every program should take a clue from Opera with regard to customizability of the interface. Having said that, Inkscape's interface is fairly intuitive and the OP's main complaint seems to be that Inkscape has too many tools (since the UI layout is exactly the same in Aviary's Raven app). There are a few oddities about Inkscape that I think could be better. The clone tool under the Edit menu is one. Changing Effects to Extensions in 0.47 is another. This may make more semantic sense, but is less intuitive to novice users looking for effects to apply.

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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby Tweenk » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:40 am

llogg wrote:I think every program should take a clue from Opera with regard to customizability of the interface.


Inkscape will not implement visual themes a la Firefox or Opera. A lot of effort would be required and the gain would be zero.

However, reorientable and customizable toolbars and menus are a possibility in near future.
You can already customize the menus to some extent by editing menus.xml.

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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby llogg » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:47 pm

Tweenk wrote:Inkscape will not implement visual themes a la Firefox or Opera. A lot of effort would be required and the gain would be zero.

However, reorientable and customizable toolbars and menus are a possibility in near future.
You can already customize the menus to some extent by editing menus.xml.
Yeah, I wasn't talking about themes so much as the menus and toolbars.

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Re: Inkscape's interface should look like Aviary

Postby snel » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:32 am

Something I noticed with Aviary is that in the video whenever one wants to change color, they click a box and a color picker dialog pops up on the other side of the screen. Then you have to drag your mouse over to it and when you are done changing color it disappears. It is a sign of a bad user interface when you have to use a lot of mouse movement to accomplish one task. Inkscape's UI is by no means perfect, there are still a lot of issues that could really help improve workflow, but compared to many programs, I would say Inkscape's UI comes in the top 10%. I sometimes work with Inkscape on one side of my screen while I watch a video on the other side, and I will have the layers and color dialogs open, and I still have enough space (12" laptop screen) to see what I am doing and do some good work.
I LOVE Inkscape's color picker.


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