0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

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0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby gymnart » Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:11 am

Will there be an rpm for SuSE 10.0?
My system is considered "end of life" so there are no more system library updates for my version anymore so I'm stuck with older app versions.
As for updating such things myself, it practically takes an expert to figure out what dependencies go with what libraries and to make sure that they don't conflict with other necessary system libraries. I'm just a beginner, so I can't take that task on.

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Re: 0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby heathenx » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:51 am

There may or may not be one for 10.0 but I'm sure that the autopackage will work for you (whenever that is released). I'm still waiting for a 10.3 rpm or at least an autopackage. So far some of the suse packagers have released 0.46 for suse 11.0 but not for anything current or downstream. Doesn't make sense to me.

I am trying to be completely patient with the suse packagers. I'd rather not bash my favorite linux distro but sometimes it's little things like this that make me want to use ubuntu/kubuntu full time instead.

...and I wait...

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Re: 0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby gymnart » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:22 am

That's nice but don't forget about Novell SuSE's timeframes: you get updates for only 2 years or so and if your version is older than *their* schedule, you're out of luck -- You're forced to upgrade your entire system or no updates for you! That is my situation right now. So if the developers of an app have moved on to the "latest and greatest" library versions that are necessary even for compiling from source, well, you're on your own -- no update for you! See this page: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime

Last I read, Inkscape needs a certain version of automake in order to compile and I have version 1.9.6 and that was the version that they said was not compatible.

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Re: 0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby heathenx » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:45 am

Well, I hear what you're saying about Suse but is there a particular reason that you do not have a newer version?

I have decided to move onto Kubuntu as my main Linux distro when Hardy is released later this month. There will be some things in Suse that I will miss after using it for 5+ years but I think that I can get on just fine. Inkscape means too much to me at this point and my frustration getting Inkscape installed properly on openSUSE is growing. It may seem like a harsh thing to say but I get the impression that the openSUSE folks don't get too excited about Inkscape and the Inkscape folks don't get too excited about openSUSE. Of course, I could totally be wrong about that. I would like to be proven wrong.

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Re: 0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby heathenx » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:57 am

This does not help the OP in anyway but perhaps it will help others. It seems as if and rpm of Inkscape 0.46 was produced for openSUSE 10.3. You can find the rpm in this repo: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/jnweiger/openSUSE_10.3/i586/

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Re: 0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby gymnart » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:15 am

I went up the directory and found this page: http://download.opensuse.org/repositori ... 10.0/i586/ But Inkscape was not there for SuSE 10.0 :(

My son-in-law tried out KUbuntu (from a live CD) but it could not use his sound chip and it didn't run his graphics card too good either (He has a Toshiba laptop). It didn't even have Gimp! It didn't even have "alsaconf"! There was so much it didn't have that we didn't like it. Maybe the DVD version would have had more stuff to it, I dunno. He decided on Sabayon instead. He loved that Beryl eye candy!

The reason why I didn't upgrade to a newer version was that I spent the last 2 1/2 years configuring and learning how to manage this computer and I've read so much in the forums about how upgrading caused problems, I just don't feel like starting all over again. One person so aptly put it, "When you upgrade, it might solve the 10 problems that you had but it could introduce 12 more!" I don't want to go through that. Right now, with my SuSE 10.0, I can watch movies, make and edit my own from my camcorder, record music (capturing from sound card), play my music, use my scanner from Gimp, print from any of my 3 printers, and Open Office works nicely for me (again, it's an older version) and much more. It all just works for me now. Why would I want to risk potentially ruining that?

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Re: 0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby heathenx » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:05 am

@gymnart

You have to understand the philosophy of the Ubutnu installs. They start out pretty basic and you add as you need. Things like Gimp, alsa, and whatever else are just an apt-get install away. As a matter of fact, if you get stuck looking for a package then use the add/remove software (either synaptic or aptitude) and search for your software.

Suse used to take the kitchen sink approach on first install. They are improving with one install cd's which keep the distro lighter until you need to install something. I prefer this method.

I understand why you have not upgraded your 10.0 to something newer. If it ain't broke don't fix it, right? On the other hand, perhaps you'll reconsider when release 11.0 is released in June. I have had every version of Suse since release 9.0 and they get better and better as one would expect. You could even download the Suse live cd and try it out first before installing. ;)

Anyway, no pressure from me.

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Re: 0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby gymnart » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:31 pm

@heathenx
Thanks for the info. I had been thinking about version 11.0 but I just don't feel like going through all this again. Yes, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Have you ever tried SuSE 11.0? Another thing, when I can't find something that I'm used to having in a certain place, that just annoys me and I'm pretty sure that some things (tools and such) might have been moved. I just know that they must have moved things around, lol. I hate when they do that to me, lol.

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Re: 0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby heathenx » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:54 pm

No, I haven't tried the betas of openSUSE 11.0 yet. I downloaded one the other day, alpha 3 I think but I haven't put it in my VM yet. The artwork looks pretty nice so far and they have improved package management that gets things a little closer to apt in speed. Looking forward to that.

I know what you mean when updates move stuff around on you but fair is fair. All updated OS's do that. Just gotta get used to new things. I'm just fortunate to have the search bar in the start menu and apps like katapult that allow you to hot key applications when you cannot find them in your start menu.

I blogged about this already but since you are a Suse user then you might be interested in the Jakub Steiner interview on openSUSE News. Jakub is a fellow Inkscape user and has produced some nice artwork.

http://news.opensuse.org/2008/04/04/people-of-opensuse-jakub-steiner/

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Re: 0.46 rpm for SuSE 10.0?

Postby gymnart » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:09 am

What is the default bootloader for SuSE?


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