A camp and a warming fire

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A camp and a warming fire

Postby nils » Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:06 am

Still VERY wip:

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby brynn » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:56 am

Oh wow, nice, nils!

My only comment would be about the fire. And which I know that depicting fire with any computer graphics program, is a challenge which hasn't been solved (at least not to my knowledge or satisfaction)(not in a photorealistic way) (raster or vector). I would just suggest injecting some randomness where possible -- like in the flames themselves, as well as to the cast highlights and glow. There's a part of the glow that reminds me of a gumdrop :mrgreen: . And I think that just like highlights are cast onto the campers, some features of the ground would also be illuminated. Also I'm wondering if on the ground, the glow would be a longer gradient?

Just a couple of thoughts. You know, your drawings always inspire me :D

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby nils » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:08 pm

Thanks Brynn.

Yes the fire needs work. The illumination of the ground is the hardest part, because it needs random bumps and shadows "int he right direction". So I am saving that part for last. The tent needs some folds (and highlights and shadows) as well.
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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby VitalBodies » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:40 pm

Nice effect.
A comment would be, should the color of the fire being so yellow and white?
Although a fire can look so many ways depending on many many factors involved.
If I were attempting this I would consider for more orange and reds with perhaps the bright colors at the flame tips just as a test.
But then I would have to ponder, do I want to draw flames and smoke and all that or would a fire of just glowing coals be better?
Depends on the goal...

The sky and trees and silhouettes create a great effect.
I am not sure how you drew this, but another suggestion is to put the tent, fire, and people each on its own layer.
You can then slide the transparency slider to "dial in" how bright they each should be to hit the exact mood you are trying to effect.
For me that is easier than changing the colors - even if in the end that is what I finally do.

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby chriswww » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:13 am

cool drawing. it takes you into the atmosphere of the scene.
fire (and lava) can be done and is done in movies using some fancy fractals. don't know which type. maybe even the basic tree shape by l-system would do?

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby cronik » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:05 am

Yeah the fire looks like an explosion to me.. but overall this is really good.

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby chriswww » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:01 am

btw i've looked it up..not that i'm any the wiser doing it in inkscape...but fractal fire and lava etc are done with "fractal noise" for anyone that may be curious.
Having a look at the picture again...maybe the characters being lit up by the light of the fire would look even better with more blur?
it's still a really cool scene.

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby nils » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:00 pm

Thanks all for the feedback, I should really finish this one off. Yes, the fire needs lots of work, but I wanted to get the main things done first, work on details later. (Guess it is MUCH later, haha.)
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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby jmintuck » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:26 pm

Awwwweeee! I just lubs this. So cuteee. You ARE talented to make a glowing fire. This kind of thing is going to take me a while to learn how to do. Thank gosh for FREEware, and not have to shell out big money for adobe stuff.

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby nils » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:11 am

Thanks for your feedback - I appreciate all suggestions! The pic's a WIP so naturally it's a tad rough around the edges. I really should take the time and work on this piece, it's a waste to have half-finished artwork... Ah well maybe after my star map is done.
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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby v1nce » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:50 am

brynn wrote:My only comment would be about the fire. And which I know that depicting fire with any computer graphics program, is a challenge which hasn't been solved (at least not to my knowledge or satisfaction)(not in a photorealistic way) (raster or vector).


looks like I should finish and upload my fire filter. :D
Would anybody agree to wait 30 seconds more to get a (somewhat) realistic fire effect ?

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby nils » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:15 pm

More filters and plugins etc are always a good thing... but I'd probably want to actually draw a fire, not have one generated for me :)
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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby vanlong441 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:48 pm

I actually like the randomness of the stars on the night sky against the placement of aliens around a yellow space ship on the ground. Oh wait, it was a camp with fire I see now. Definitely need some sparkles out of the burning firewood, or some rising dark smoke if the fire was fueled with gasoline...

Well done :D you took my imagination to the outer space

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby nils » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:39 pm

Okay, okay, I got the message... ;-)

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby brynn » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:30 pm

Oh, I'm so glad you've done some more with this. I like the changes -- especially how the embers float up and look like stars! It's a very dreamy kind of image, to me :D

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby nils » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:29 pm

Haha thanks.. I guess the next update will be in '13. ;)

Anyway, I think i was inspired by this:

http://www.mobygames.com/game/c64/curse ... Id,265932/
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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby chriswww » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:44 am

the fire has improved dramatically. Would it look even more convincing if there was some orange/red in the fire?

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby nils » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:00 am

Mh, I tried working on this and Inkscape died a horrible death because of all the blur :D I swear it'll be another year before I will get this updated. ;)
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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby johntaylor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:43 pm

vanlong441 wrote:I actually like the randomness of the stars on the night sky against the placement of aliens around a yellow space ship on the ground. Oh wait, it was a campwith fire I see now. Definitely need some sparkles out of the burning firewood, or some rising dark smoke if the fire was fueled with gasoline...

Well done :D you took my imagination to the outer space







Amazing! Your imagination is superb man and thanks to "nils". I like changes in this image, now it has perfect.
looking like dreamy. :)

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Re: A camp and a warming fire

Postby nils » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:00 pm

Thanks johntaylor. Can't believe it's 3.5 years since I touched this... haha, I guess this will remain, forever, a WIP.
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