Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

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Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby InkCat » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:54 am

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This image shows something I made in Adobe Illustrator; on the right is the Preview of what's on the left and show the threads blend I set up.

Can Inkscape do something like this?


thanks!

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby RobA » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:48 pm

There is the interpolate effect, but it only works on paths, not groups or objects: http://inkscape.org/doc/interpolate/tut ... te.en.html

But your example looks like a simple tiled clone to me.

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby InkCat » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:20 pm

ok, so tiled clones are the way to get what I made?

icat

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby llogg » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:11 pm

Yeah. It looks like you have 9 identical turns on that bolt. Make one of the turns and create tiled clones of it. Using clones allows you to go back and edit the original and having the clones automatically update.

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby InkCat » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:49 pm

OK that is sweet...Now, I have tried the tile clone tool and got thoroughly confused, probably because it doesn't work like Illustrator's tools...do you have a link to something that makes it easy to learn?

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby ~suv » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:14 pm

InkCat wrote:(…) do you have a link to something that makes it easy to learn?
I'd recommend to start with the Inkscape manual: Inkscape > Tiling

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby druban » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:20 pm

I do note that the fill on each of the turns is a little different - looks like the same gradient, but with the nodes moved a little - (might be a conical gradient!!) - that might make reproducing this graphic using tiled clones a little more complicated. ... The leftmost turn also looks smaller than the rightmost. All this means that interpolate is more likely a solution than cloning....
;) Just saying.
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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby llogg » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:00 am

druban wrote:I do note that the fill on each of the turns is a little different - looks like the same gradient, but with the nodes moved a little - (might be a conical gradient!!) - that might make reproducing this graphic using tiled clones a little more complicated. ... The leftmost turn also looks smaller than the rightmost. All this means that interpolate is more likely a solution than cloning....
;) Just saying.

I noticed that as well but couldn't think of a reason why a bolt would be wider at the base than the tip, so I just assumed that the real goal was uniformity of the turns. I don't think I see any conical gradients, just two separate linear gradients (one for the "top" and one for the "groove"). Cloning has the major advantage of easy editing after the fact (e.g., wanting to change the lighting with different gradients).

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby chriswww » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:21 pm

the thread doesn't look that great (i mean realistic) in the illustrator original drawing. should be a bit more like a typical bolt thread?

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby RobA » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:10 pm

It looks like a sparkplug to me, not a bolt. They are tapered and have sharper looking threads.

I hadn't noticed the tapering threads when I initially suggested using tiled clones, sorry.

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby InkCat » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:03 am

I'm the OP here...not sure what you mean by tapered...I probably did adjust the first and last instance of the blend, in other words, the illustration required a slightly different curve on those parts at one end than at the other end of the blend, but nothing radical...if you slapped one shape on top of the other, they'd be a pretty close match in shape.

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby llogg » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:39 am

This is a quick attempt to show how I'd use the two different techniques to get similar results. Hope it helps.
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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby brynn » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:51 am

Off topic:
llog, I've missed your helpful replies. Glad to see you posting more regularly lately. I think you and druban, ffaat (Rob A), chriswww, and vwanweb, not to mention our beloved ~suv, (and several others whose names I can't remember at the moment) will probably have some interesting and helpful discussions (like this), from which we all undoubtedly will benefit.

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby llogg » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:41 am

Thanks, brynn. Haven't had a lot of time for doodles lately (and to be honest these last few days have been moments stolen from what I should be doing) but I don't want to get too far out of touch.

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby druban » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:57 pm

'Pathetic attempt" looks pretty darn excellent...
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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby llogg » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:59 pm

Thanks, druban. I always get frustrated trying to do metallic gradients.

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby RobA » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:24 am

llogg-

Nice go! If you angle the metallic highlights a bit more it will emphasize the threads and amke them look "higher":
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I made one thread, cloned it and moved it to the end, then stamped 7 more threads and used align and distribute, so when I tweaked the gradient of the one they all change.

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Re: Can Inkscape do Illustrator "Blends?"

Postby chriswww » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:49 pm

maybe my brain is not seeing your picture right..but looks like each thread has a wide high flat/rounded section and very little groove. as in a symmetrical regular zig-zag, like http://www.eworldwire.com/mediauploads/ ... 052518.jpg
if you're not after accurate realism or whatever, the gradients look pretty good anyway.


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