invisible layer????

schoggi · Postby **schoggi** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:41 pm

hello out there
seems like I have an invisible layer with partially same (slightly moved) geometry
they are all on same layer but only visible in nodes mode...
how did that get there? why is it not visible in normal mode?? how can I get rid of it easily without individually selecting the nodes??
thanks for having a look

Postby **brynn** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:51 pm

It's hard to tell, from those small images, exactly what's happening. Could we look at the SVG file? I'm not sure if you can attach at file on this board (you can on Help with Inkscape board, for sure). Or you can use any other image host, like ImageShack, imgur, or DropBox, and give us a link. Then we can actually open it in Inkscape, and look for ourselves.

If that's not possible, try selecting this invisible layer with the Selection tool, and look at the status bar. It will tell you what kind of object it is, and that will be a clue where it came from. If it's grouped with something else, that will make it harder to know where it came from. But we could figure it out, if we have the SVG file.

tylerdurden · Postby **tylerdurden** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:53 pm

As noted, the svg would be helpful.

That said... Looks like u have a set of paths with no fill or stroke. You can see them with Menu: View>Display Mode>Outlines. If you have the recent pre-release build, you select can one mystery object and use Menu: Edit>Select Same>Fill and Stroke.

Once selected, you can do whatever you like with them... fill, delete, move to another layer, etc.

schoggi · Postby **schoggi** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:17 am

yes that was the Problem .... stuff grouped and on top of eachother.. as well fills and strokes missing
some how.... but no idea how that happened... :roll:

thanks a lot.. that helped
here s svg just with Problem Areas..
how can you see this more easy when such things occur?? i only saw it in other program ,(cnc) when I imported dxf of it
thanks again

tylerdurden · Postby **tylerdurden** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:05 am

It's easy enough to get clutter when experimenting.

I suggest viewing in outline and checking the status bar for consistency with your expectations of groups, objects, paths, etc.

: Objects unpiled.; Roman1.jpg (69.6 KiB) Viewed 2216 times

schoggi · Postby **schoggi** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:58 am

thank you soooo much mister
I don t have any clue in the world how the stuff in red got in there

the outline tip is just great
thanks again ..

Postby **brynn** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:45 am

That part in the red circle looks like the negative of a pattern unit....or at least part of a unit. Maybe you Differenced part of the pattern from another object?

As tylerdurden said, when you're just learning, and experimenting with many tools or features, it's easy to end up with....just all kinds of extra stuff that you didn't realize was happening. I can't remember what I was doing, but there was one time when I suddenly realized I had 70-something duplicates of 1 object! Fortunately it was rather small and simple, because 70-something copies of a large or complex object would probably have crashed Inkscape! I'm still not sure how it happened

Lazur · Postby **Lazur** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:55 am

Off topic:

Oh the regular z-order problem.

Will have start a new thread especially on it sometime.
All related to some point:
braid
braided spiral
rope
celtic pattern
z-order trick
z-order problem.

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