Font Managements

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Espermaschine
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Font Managements

Postby Espermaschine » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:52 am

is there any other way using fonts in Inkscape, than installing them into your windows ?

i dont want hundreds of fonts that i only use one or two times in IS, to clutter my system (i mean, i dont need 40 futuristic fonts in OpenOffice, for example)

as a workaround im using a little program called AMP Font Viewer that lets you install a font temporarily
but its not ideal, because when i re-open that svg-file months later, i cant remember the font's name i used

so as another workaround, i leave the name of the font somewhere besides the canvas area, which again is not ideal

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Re: Font Managements

Postby Lazur » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:48 am

Hmm never heard of such temporary install.

But tried to type in a text, convert it to path, ungroup characters and combine them together to make sure it's a simple path object.
After that, the original font name was still kept in the codes!
Even after another path was subtracted from it, and the unused defs vacuumed.

Open the xml editor (Shift+Ctrl+X) and select the object's style attribute.
There you can get the font name after
font-family:
and
-inkscape-font-specification:
parts.

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Re: Font Managements

Postby Espermaschine » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:15 am

thats an interesting tip, although im unsure i want to convert my text into a path every time

i like to create images for my mp3 collection, because working with text in Inkscape is so much easier than in Gimp
and often i just need to edit the text for a variation


so Lazur URH, you install and then uninstall a font everytime you need it ?

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Re: Font Managements

Postby Lazur » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:33 am

For personal projects I don't need a huge variety of lettering,
for commercial ones at "99 nonsenses" I try to avoid using them straight.
I rather search a font at the open font library then to convert a text to path made with a -free for personal use only- font in a logo.
It might be good for licensing, but I don't feel it ethical personally.
So if a logo would need lettering, I usually edit it as a path/erode it a bit.

Yes, I install fonts for occasional using but I don't uninstall them.
Actually since I moved to linux I have no clue where they are stored at, how to remove them.
A few hundreds I can deal with.

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Re: Font Managements

Postby Espermaschine » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:55 am

i had never heard of theopenfontlibrary.org before
good to know !

i usually use dafont


Lazur URH wrote:I rather search a font at the open font library then to convert a text to path made with a -free for personal use only- font in a logo.
It might be good for licensing, but I don't feel it ethical personally.

what exactly do you dislike ??

Lazur URH wrote:So if a logo would need lettering, I usually edit it as a path/erode it a bit.

why is that ?

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Re: Font Managements

Postby Lazur » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:56 am

Making a font from scratch is hell lot of work.
Creating character set, with special characters, correct spacing, ligatures, styles, takes many working hours -if not weeks.

Fonts at dafont are mostly free for non-commercial use.
Many letterers claim in the readme file that if you want to use their font in a commercial project, contact them.
While it would be the customer's part to license the font, it may be problematic for a freelancer to persuade the customers that they need to pay an extra if they want to go with the design.
While a logo, that needs only a few characters, would hardly need the whole font or font family.

But if the lettering is actually converted to its outlines, still it would mean using a design element from someone else, without benefitting them for their work.
The ofl licensing is the closest to public domain, I feel no concerns about that.

If I like a lettering with a specific -non ofl- font, it's mostly of the proportions of the characters.
By tracing it, eroding, the right part can be kept, while the overall look is totally replaced.
Not that I have a good experience in logo designing anyway, just an opinion.


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