Inkscape BUGS! Help please.

[Sasquatch]

Hello there!
Iam new to the forums and I really need your help.

The first problem :

Every time I open my SVG folders on my MacBook Pro , Inkscape opens this grey screen and freezes for about 10mins and then  finally opens. , It also happens when I import SVG Folders,  it freezes for like 15 mins and then finally opens ,   Im really confused and sad about it , Please I need your help.




The second problem :

When I copy and paste an object , it keeps pasting it with a white background,



The third problem :

Sometimes when  I open my folder\Art work
Inkscape freezes and opens in a small window in the left corner and after like 15 mins it finally opens as a whole screen and works appropriately.

[brynn]

Welcome to the forum!

The first and easiest answer.  There's a bug using Inkscape on Macs where pasting causes vector objects to become rasterized.  So you need to avoid pasting, and instead of Copy, use Duplicate.   It's long standing, and well known.  I'm not sure why it hasn't been fixed yet.

Also note the installation instructions here, if you didn't already find and use them:  https://inkscape.org/en/download/mac-os/

And a few more issues particular to Macs:  https://inkscape.org/en/learn/faq/#Mac_OS_X_specific_issues

Those other 2 issues, which sound like they can generally be described by slow loading, could be caused by Inkscape files which are larger than the amount of RAM on your system can handle.  However, it's possible that if you didn't use the installation instructions, that might be part of the problem.

Which version of Inkscape are you using?

[Lazur]

Isn't the copy/paste rasterization issue related to a specific mac (desktop?) theme only?

[brynn]

Maybe so, I'm not sure.  I've always heard it called a bug, and thought it was an Inkscape bug.  But maybe is a Mac bug?

[Moini]

Isn't the copy/paste rasterization issue related to a specific mac (desktop?) theme only?

No, it's related to the settings of XQuartz, not to a desktop theme. Every Mac user who uses the dmg file for 0.91 needs to change the settings, else they will experience that issue.

[brynn]

Oh, good to know!  I thought the only way to avoid it was to use Duplicate instead of Copy/Paste.

So is it only avoidable in 0.91, or is that a typo?

[Sasquatch]

Hey guys , Thank you for your replies.
I Just tried to reinstall it appropriately using the instructions on the official website and  its still doing the same problems. =(

Regarding the size of the folders , I'm pretty sure they are small.
heres a pic.

 



Another problem
is when I ungroup an object , Inkscape freezes for about 7 mins
Honestly ,  it doesn't make sense to me because the object is not so much detailed.

[brynn]

The file that you have highlighted (704.5 kb) shouldn't be causing too much trouble on a modern computer (which has not less than 4 gb RAM).  On the other hand, the image you showed looks like it shouldn't be more than 5 kb.  So something's up with that.  Maybe there are things in the file that you aren't aware of?

In any case, freezing like you've descriped is a very common symptom of a performance issue.  Can you share the SVG file with us?

Here's a tutoria/article which explains some tips for working on files which are getting too large.

https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=35

But letting us see the actual file is the best way to be sure what's happening. 

[Sasquatch]

The file that you have highlighted (704.5 kb) shouldn't be causing too much trouble on a modern computer (which has not less than 4 gb RAM).  On the other hand, the image you showed looks like it shouldn't be more than 5 kb.  So something's up with that.  Maybe there are things in the file that you aren't aware of?

In any case, freezing like you've descriped is a very common symptom of a performance issue.  Can you share the SVG file with us?

Here's a tutoria/article which explains some tips for working on files which are getting too large.

https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=35



But letting us see the actual file is the best way to be sure what's happening. 

Hey there!  , If u don't mind me asking , How can I post the file here? , Thank you.

[Moini]

So is it only avoidable in 0.91, or is that a typo?

There is only a 0.91 dmg for OS X, everyone who wants 0.92.x on a Mac needs to use the other, less easy options. They will also need to change the settings, AFAIU (but there are hopefully only few people who use them).

[brynn]

Sasquatch, there are a couple of ways that you can make a file available for us.  One is to upload it to this site, which you can do by using the full  editor (not Quick Reply).  Click the Reply button (just below the last message in this thread).

When you see the full editor (with smileys), look below the message box and click "Attachments and other options".  You'll probably be able to figure it out from there, but if not, just tell us where you're stuck.

The other way is to upload the file anywhere you like, such as a file sharing site like dropbox or an image host like https://imgh.us.  And then give us the link to where you uploaded it.


Moini, I thought someone (or group) had made a DMG for 0.92.  I remember posting about it several times.  Did something happen to it (maybe during the time I was out sick last month)?

[Moini]

It was a test package. The real one will only come with the next release.
That one will adjust the Xquartz settings by itself, so copy-pasting should work out of the box.

[Sasquatch]

Thank you Brynn.
heres the file.
it takes me so long to open it.

[brynn]

The file is 2.4 mb, which seems so much larger than it looks like it should be.  It seems like even 1 mb would be a stretch, for your drawing.  But I just started to investigate.  So maybe shortly I'l'l find out why.

Thanks Moini.  That will be awesome to have the paste bug fixed....or maybe worked around is better.

[brynn]

Ok, I found the problem.  This is very common for newbies, and it happened to me when I was first learning too.  I would be working on a file, and just be clicking away.  Drawing things, deleting them, trying different colors and gradients, and experimenting with filters and extensions, and everything I could find.  Kid in a candy store, you know!

But as it turns out, Inkscape keeps parts of almost everything that you've done in the file, even if you might have deleted it.  I don't really understand why it works like that, but it does.

So go to File menu > Clean Up Document.  Well first, deselect everything.  Then keep your eye on the status bar.  Click Clean Up Doc.  After a moment or 2, the status bar will report that it deleted 8800-something defs.  (If you don't deselect everything first, you won't see the report for how many defs were deleted, in the status bar.)

Actually I feel a little silly.  I should have thought of that right away.  I guess you showed us the image of a couple of little paths, and it never occurred to me you might have racked up so many defs.  Or maybe I'm just distracted by life offline right now....who knows.

Anyway, after you get rid of the unused defs, you'l be clicking away again 

Edit
Just reviewing your original and earlier messages, and realize you showed us some different images earlier.  So you might need to do this with some other files too.

There's no way to know how many defs are piling up, except after you delete them, Inkscape tells you how many.  I guess it might help if there were a clue somewhere...??  Feature request??

[Sasquatch]

Ok, I found the problem.  This is very common for newbies, and it happened to me when I was first learning too.  I would be working on a file, and just be clicking away.  Drawing things, deleting them, trying different colors and gradients, and experimenting with filters and extensions, and everything I could find.  Kid in a candy store, you know!

But as it turns out, Inkscape keeps parts of almost everything that you've done in the file, even if you might have deleted it.  I don't really understand why it works like that, but it does.

So go to File menu > Clean Up Document.  Well first, deselect everything.  Then keep your eye on the status bar.  Click Clean Up Doc.  After a moment or 2, the status bar will report that it deleted 8800-something defs.  (If you don't deselect everything first, you won't see the report for how many defs were deleted, in the status bar.)

Actually I feel a little silly.  I should have thought of that right away.  I guess you showed us the image of a couple of little paths, and it never occurred to me you might have racked up so many defs.  Or maybe I'm just distracted by life offline right now....who knows.

Anyway, after you get rid of the unused defs, you'l be clicking away again 

Edit
Just reviewing your original and earlier messages, and realize you showed us some different images earlier.  So you might need to do this with some other files too.

There's no way to know how many defs are piling up, except after you delete them, Inkscape tells you how many.  I guess it might help if there were a clue somewhere...??  Feature request??

Oh my god! You are an ANGEL!!
Thank you so much!!

[brynn]

You're welcome